▲ 1130 ▼ Stop Killing the Internet: Governments are walling off the open internet. We are a global movement opposing restrictions — and building a better internet. (www.stopkillingtheinternet.com) submitted 4 months ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to c/technology@lemmy.world 103 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 99 points 4 months ago (8 children) turns out china was just a little bit ahead of everyone huh permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago (5 children) It's more like some people saw an opportunity in selling China-style online censorship to other governments. They just needed convincing stories to sell. Stories of children being groomed with internet porn and calling for mass censorship. Stories of the stars of internet porn regretting it and calling for mass censorship. Stories of terror attacks being organized on the internet. Stories of awful chatrooms. So now anyone wanting to oppose your censorship is a nazi islamist pedophile jerking off to CSAM in their mother's basement. And it won't end with banning the most disgusting and gory lolicon hentai. It won't even stop with banning porn. It will end with things being banned because some Trump, Orbán, Putin-class dictator didn't like it, and the chatbot spat out some reasonable sounding argument that supported it beyond "the glorious leader didn't like this". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago (1 child) Europe has been working this protecting children from predators angle for at least two decades, to weaken any sort of encryption or anonymity and allow more state surveillance. This isn't something new, it's just that now they think they can get away with doing their worst, knowing just how fucked our voters are in the head as their political parties are all captured by oligarchs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago An argument can be made for anything permalink fedilink source parent [–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Imagine being so stupid you fall for that astroturf nonsense. https://lemmy.world/post/6893490 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] x0x7@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* I'm starting to be a fan of countries walling off vs the alternative. To be clear, I'm not for it. I would prefer open internet. But what's worse is countries trying to project their jurisdiction across the globe. If you don't like that I don't comply with the laws of places where I don't live, block my site. I don't block you. You block me. I shouldn't even have a responsibility to know what your laws are to know if I should block you. It's your laws, your job. And if a country finds it easier to block off the whole external internet, fine. That's still better than someone who I didn't elect thinking they can tell me how I must do my job. Certainly better than 152 different governments and municipalities trying to do it at the same time. So we should make it clear. When someone in a foreign country visits your site, you are not operating in that country. The user is visiting yours. permalink fedilink source parent [+] MortUS@lemmy.world -7 points 4 months ago Yeah, absolutely. Every Nation should have something like this unfortunately. I think it makes sense for techies to be able to breach the walls and reach the open internet, tunnel into other countries nets, but the general populace just cannot unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago (5 children) It's more like some people saw an opportunity in selling China-style online censorship to other governments. They just needed convincing stories to sell. Stories of children being groomed with internet porn and calling for mass censorship. Stories of the stars of internet porn regretting it and calling for mass censorship. Stories of terror attacks being organized on the internet. Stories of awful chatrooms. So now anyone wanting to oppose your censorship is a nazi islamist pedophile jerking off to CSAM in their mother's basement. And it won't end with banning the most disgusting and gory lolicon hentai. It won't even stop with banning porn. It will end with things being banned because some Trump, Orbán, Putin-class dictator didn't like it, and the chatbot spat out some reasonable sounding argument that supported it beyond "the glorious leader didn't like this". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago (1 child) Europe has been working this protecting children from predators angle for at least two decades, to weaken any sort of encryption or anonymity and allow more state surveillance. This isn't something new, it's just that now they think they can get away with doing their worst, knowing just how fucked our voters are in the head as their political parties are all captured by oligarchs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago An argument can be made for anything permalink fedilink source parent [–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Imagine being so stupid you fall for that astroturf nonsense. https://lemmy.world/post/6893490 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago (1 child) Europe has been working this protecting children from predators angle for at least two decades, to weaken any sort of encryption or anonymity and allow more state surveillance. This isn't something new, it's just that now they think they can get away with doing their worst, knowing just how fucked our voters are in the head as their political parties are all captured by oligarchs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago An argument can be made for anything permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Imagine being so stupid you fall for that astroturf nonsense. https://lemmy.world/post/6893490 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] x0x7@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* I'm starting to be a fan of countries walling off vs the alternative. To be clear, I'm not for it. I would prefer open internet. But what's worse is countries trying to project their jurisdiction across the globe. If you don't like that I don't comply with the laws of places where I don't live, block my site. I don't block you. You block me. I shouldn't even have a responsibility to know what your laws are to know if I should block you. It's your laws, your job. And if a country finds it easier to block off the whole external internet, fine. That's still better than someone who I didn't elect thinking they can tell me how I must do my job. Certainly better than 152 different governments and municipalities trying to do it at the same time. So we should make it clear. When someone in a foreign country visits your site, you are not operating in that country. The user is visiting yours. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MortUS@lemmy.world -7 points 4 months ago Yeah, absolutely. Every Nation should have something like this unfortunately. I think it makes sense for techies to be able to breach the walls and reach the open internet, tunnel into other countries nets, but the general populace just cannot unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent