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Mexico Unveils Olinia 1: President Sheinbaum Launches First Mexican Electric Vehicle (latinarepublic.com)
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[–] 1 point 5 months ago (14 children)

Yeah but the point is given a certain amount of watts, there's a maximum speed to lift no matter what the setup is. And it doesn't matter whether you measure that power in Watts, horsepower or Pferdestärke - the maximum speed to lift a given weight is the same.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    Do you drive an EV?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (12 children)

    Yes, sometimes. My wife's car is a Tesla 3. And yes the feel is very different. But the bottom line physics is still the same.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    Its not "bottom line physics is the same" because the fucking aren't. The actual construction of the fucking vehicle and its power train matters. This why everyone is dismissive of your point. You just straight up wrong here.

    Go load up your wife's Tesla 3 with 1k lbs of cinder blocks, and then find an equivalent stated HP ICE vehicle and do the same. Drive both of them up the same hill and tell me its the same thing. And if you TRULY want to experience the difference, find a manual transmission ICE equivalent.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    It's the same in terms of your maximum optimized speed. Power is power. An ice engine needs to rev high to get high power and an electric motor doesn't (depending on how it's wired). But if you optimize the drive train perfectly in either case, there is a maximum speed you can lift a given weight based on the power output of the engine system. v=P/(mg) this is irrelevant of whether your power is coming out of an electric, ice or other type of motor. A typical electric setup would probably get closer to that ideal than a typical ice in terms of achieving their maximum quoted power output. But the electric set up will never exceed it. That's just physics no matter how much you might like EV cars.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    Stop talking and load the car.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    My wife would get mad at me for messing up her car. And while theories should sometimes be empirically verified even when already a standard assumption, in this case the physics is trivial high school level and so fundamental that it's stupid to bother. And just driving cars doesn't test it at all anyway - the fact that you think it does, demonstrates that you don't actually understand the point at all. But you don't seem to be capable of comprehending what I'm saying, and that fine; it takes all types. Have a good day.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    You'll just do anything it takes other than verify you claim in reality where you will very quick recognize it breaks down.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (6 children)

    Where what breaks down? You don't seem to even understand the point you're arguing.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Then take the time to go back to your original claim and you'll soon recognize that you've just been talking out your ass this whole time about a trivial and irrelevant claim that isn't supported in the real world.

    You routed a comparison of an EV to an ICE power-train through HP, which is basically invalidated the comparison from the start, because as a basic comparison it doesn't make sense. And the reason why isn't just physics. But I'm not going to tell you more then that. You need to be curious enough to develop an understanding of why its a false equivalency to do so. You not understanding why that is the case is the entire point. Like you genuinely aren't worth arguing about this because your lack of understanding is so clear.

    And if you can't take the time to be introspective enough to recognize that, you genuinely aren't worth the time.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Haha. Horse power is just another measurement of power like Watts. Just different units. Like km vs miles. You've realized that you're wrong and have nothing but insults left. Sad.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Jesus fuck you are still here? The guy who still doesn't know what horsepower is? That its not actually "just another measurement of power". That the term doesn't actually mean what they think it means?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Maybe do some research before embarrassing yourself further? Or not. Whatever!

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