This style of posting lends itself to having "hot takes" get upvoted and actual discussions have middling success.

At least with us, you can chose the tech and put it up yourself. Like right now you are using slrpnk.net and im using piefed.social on a lemmy.world server. Without any issues. We (the collective WE) made this happen without huge billionaires having a strangle hold on the way we interact. Its not perfect, but its better than a LOT of the alternatives.

I think to whatever degree innate tribalism of humans play roles in internet communities, federated servers is still the best way to reflect the good and hinder the bad. Migratory identity would take activity pub a long way in making federation better, but even without it activity pub shows bluesky to be a monolithic platform with a federated coat of paint.

Ya, you are not wrong there. It's been a mixed bag at times but YPTB been good proof of this place goin downhill too.

Basically no social media is safe.

You’re not wrong, but a difference is that most lemmings don’t really want to be here, i.e are in exile and pretty up front about that. I’m not saying it isn’t an echo chamber, but it’s a much messier one than Bluesky.

I keep seeing the echo chamber thing but at this point most social media sites are. Bluesky is just a left leaning one, which is the only thing that really sets it apart.

I mean honestly I think left leaning is basically being neutral and accepting scientific consensus. To me the non federated part of bluesky is kind of what makes me consider it a time bomb. Even if it were good now, we already know one owner switch, hostile takeover, threats from the government etc... can flip a network around faster than you can blink. It's why I literally see federation as the only way forward for the internet, and find it so ridiculous that everyone bolted to bluesky to escape twitters crash instead of mastadon. It's the same key problem. it can go down in moments.

Yup, pretty much. Honestly I'm not even sure I would join a social media platform where I would have to read the thoughts of uneducated, unfiltered morons who probably should be sterile and cut off from the internet.

I wouldn't say it's left leaning... Its definitely liberal leaning. Which almost makes it more insufferable than a conservative lean sight.

I just had that happen. A liberal, declared that its ok to be racist against Middle Easterners (Except Israelis) because they all want to destroy Israel....

Like, my brother in christ, you just said genocide is ok, if it targets whomever you consider "undesirables"...