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[–] 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

The Apache was deployed because its sensors could detect and shoot down drones. There is no way it was downed by a drone.

It wasn’t designed for a marine environment. This is a complex piece of equipment that most likely failed due to salt corrosion.

The USA has a long history of faking attacks to justify wars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maine_(1890)#Sinking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident#Second_alleged_attack

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    USCENTCOM has never officially said the copter was hit by a drone.
    the closes they came is this.

    https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PUBLIC-RELEASES/Article/4512968/us-completes-strikes-in-response-to-irans-attack-on-apache/

    And if you read the article it doesn't say anything about drones.

    The best i can find out is the crash is still under investigation.

    I worked for the army for 30 years as a civilian at redstone arsenal where the U.S. Army Aviation and Missile Command headquarters are. They are responsible for the apache. I never worked on the copters, but brushed shoulder with the people who did. The statements made so far are a classic case of the president wants it to be an attack, so let's agree without lying.

    Also i gave you two links to previous episodes like this. Did you read them?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maine_(1890)#Sinking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident#Second_alleged_attack

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    "But there have been officials who stated it to news sources."

    And those statements have been made anonymously and without credible evidence to back up the statements. It's just spin.

    Over my career I saw the truth on the ground verses the stuff that came out the mouths of the "officials" they rarely if ever matched reality. Especially when it was a politician talking.

    As for the rest of your statement, there is just so much wrong in it I'm not going to spend hours swatting it all down. I've made a valid effort to provide some reality to the news spin. I decline to comment further.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    The Apache could also possibly have been downed by Israel to sabotage the 'peace talks'.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    The Israel's have no assets in that area that could bring down an apache.

    It has one of the best sensor packages available, you cant just sneak up on it and shoot it.

    https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/mena/2026/03/09/apache-merlin-wildcats-the-drone-destroying-helicopters-shooting-down-irans-arsenal/

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    How do you make sensors so good? Are you sensing air pressure disturbance, high frequency sound, electromagnetic radiation, … ?

    I only ask because I wonder if something like a basic mounted, no internal-targeting, missile would be detected. E.g., if all routing is determined before fire, pre-loaded, and the final payload flies without emitting a signature.

    At a cost difference of 1:700, I think you can afford to miss a few shots.

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    The drone engine is hot and traveling at subsonic speeds. Mostly it's just the right radar and the right thermal sensors connected to the right software.

    A lot of modern platforms have networked capabilities so it's not just a helicopter and a drone. Everything in the air and ground and at sea tend to work together.

    Well, it supposed to work together... I've been retire for about a decade. I'm sure they have moved on since i stopped paying attention.

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