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I got permabanned from the Friendly Carnivore com and I think that's really funny. (lemmy.today)
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I eat meat, but man do I see some dumb shit posted on that com. Apparently I called someone too hard on their bullshit. Hardcore carnists sure are fucking delicate. Maybe they should get a little more fiber in their diet.

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[–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

I fail to see how epidemiology is different from any other branches of science. Apart from all the successes I mentioned it has done a great deal in understanding infectious diseases.

a lot of high quality epidemiology says

With better data you can overthrow any theory or hypothesis. I don't think anyone thinks the consensus view cannot be changed or plant based results from epidemiology are unfalsifiable.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (3 children)

    I don’t think anyone thinks the consensus view cannot be changed or plant based results from epidemiology are unfalsifiable.

    Great, it does come across that way some times.

    I fail to see how epidemiology is different from any other branches of science.

    falsifiable hypothesis and interventional experiments would be a good start.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    thanks I am familiar enough with falsifiability and interventional studies to understand what you mean.

    As I said I have carefully studied epidimiology and it's historical successes. And I have directly experienced how the branch is viewed in the communities of actual scientists. I trust their judgement more than some health influencers and guys on the internet obsessed with spreading carnivore diet.

    I don't think we'll make much progress here. I'll go with carnivore diet bad.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I trust their judgement more than some health influencers and guys on the internet obsessed with spreading carnivore diet.

    I post the actual papers you know.... Let's take a single issue we discussed, saturated fat and cardiovascular outcomes - I've posted this paper, but here it is directly https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jacc.2020.05.077 Saturated Fats and Health: A Reassessment and Proposal for Food-Based Recommendations: JACC State-of-the-Art Review

    How does your reading of consensus based epidemiology reconcile such analysis?

    I don’t think we’ll make much progress here. I’ll go with carnivore diet bad.

    Totally fair, I'm not trying to recruit you!

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