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[–] msage@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (6 children) What war crimes has Ukraine commited? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children) From the thread I linked elsewhere: https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/40th-periodic-report-human-rights-situation-ukraine-treatment-prisoners https://www.npr.org/2023/01/31/1152743054/human-rights-watch-ukraine-landmines CNN coverage of Donbas in 2014 https://xcancel.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296 UN finds no genocide https://news.yahoo.com/un-commission-fails-evidence-russias-160057021.html https://mronline.org/2023/07/30/russia-donbass-and-the-reality-of-the-conflict-in-ukraine/ Stoltenberg admits NATO was in Ukraine since 2014 https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_211698.htm https://www.kanekoa.news/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-started HRW https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions Donbas documentary 2016 https://youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs clip from the doc https://odysee.com/@justsomeclips:2/trade-union-burning-2014:8 Ukraine in Donbas https://ingaza.wordpress.com/2022/08/10/what-ive-seen-of-ukraines-war-crimes-against-civilians-in-the-donbass-over-the-years/ https://thegrayzone.com/2023/09/06/ukraines-arms-supplier-maidan-massacre/ Poroshenko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHWHqj8g7Bk Essentially, killing civilians, torturing prisoners, shelling civilian areas, similar tactics to the IDF with respect to the Donbass. Makes sense considering Israel and Ukraine occupy similar roles for western imperialism, both are staunch allies, and both are run by fascists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev -4 points 5 months ago (4 children) Yes, let's go decade ago to fish something out. Meanwhile Russia is commiting tens of thousands of them in this conflict alone. Fuck off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children) The war has been going on for over a decade, history didn't start in 2022. Ukraine is regularly shelling civilian populations, just the other day they murdered a dozen teenage girls in a shelling attack. The Statesian/Zionist attack on Minab Elementary School comes to mind as a parallel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev -4 points 5 months ago (2 children) Deflecting, deflecting, deflecting, never admitting for a second that Russia is doing attrocities. Get lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) Russia has committed war crimes, I never said otherwise. You asked for evidence of Ukraine committing war crimes, and I gave that evidence. I also explained that treating war crimes like a measuring stick is horribly reductive, you've deflected beyond the central question of self determination for the Donbass region. I've done absolutely nothing wrong. Caping for neofascists like you're doing isn't received well here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago That's literally you right now. Unless you care to admit that Ukraine just bombed a girl's school? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children) From the thread I linked elsewhere: https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/40th-periodic-report-human-rights-situation-ukraine-treatment-prisoners https://www.npr.org/2023/01/31/1152743054/human-rights-watch-ukraine-landmines CNN coverage of Donbas in 2014 https://xcancel.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296 UN finds no genocide https://news.yahoo.com/un-commission-fails-evidence-russias-160057021.html https://mronline.org/2023/07/30/russia-donbass-and-the-reality-of-the-conflict-in-ukraine/ Stoltenberg admits NATO was in Ukraine since 2014 https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_211698.htm https://www.kanekoa.news/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-started HRW https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions Donbas documentary 2016 https://youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs clip from the doc https://odysee.com/@justsomeclips:2/trade-union-burning-2014:8 Ukraine in Donbas https://ingaza.wordpress.com/2022/08/10/what-ive-seen-of-ukraines-war-crimes-against-civilians-in-the-donbass-over-the-years/ https://thegrayzone.com/2023/09/06/ukraines-arms-supplier-maidan-massacre/ Poroshenko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHWHqj8g7Bk Essentially, killing civilians, torturing prisoners, shelling civilian areas, similar tactics to the IDF with respect to the Donbass. Makes sense considering Israel and Ukraine occupy similar roles for western imperialism, both are staunch allies, and both are run by fascists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev -4 points 5 months ago (4 children) Yes, let's go decade ago to fish something out. Meanwhile Russia is commiting tens of thousands of them in this conflict alone. Fuck off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children) The war has been going on for over a decade, history didn't start in 2022. Ukraine is regularly shelling civilian populations, just the other day they murdered a dozen teenage girls in a shelling attack. The Statesian/Zionist attack on Minab Elementary School comes to mind as a parallel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev -4 points 5 months ago (2 children) Deflecting, deflecting, deflecting, never admitting for a second that Russia is doing attrocities. Get lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) Russia has committed war crimes, I never said otherwise. You asked for evidence of Ukraine committing war crimes, and I gave that evidence. I also explained that treating war crimes like a measuring stick is horribly reductive, you've deflected beyond the central question of self determination for the Donbass region. I've done absolutely nothing wrong. Caping for neofascists like you're doing isn't received well here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago That's literally you right now. Unless you care to admit that Ukraine just bombed a girl's school? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] msage@programming.dev -4 points 5 months ago (4 children) Yes, let's go decade ago to fish something out. Meanwhile Russia is commiting tens of thousands of them in this conflict alone. Fuck off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children) The war has been going on for over a decade, history didn't start in 2022. Ukraine is regularly shelling civilian populations, just the other day they murdered a dozen teenage girls in a shelling attack. The Statesian/Zionist attack on Minab Elementary School comes to mind as a parallel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev -4 points 5 months ago (2 children) Deflecting, deflecting, deflecting, never admitting for a second that Russia is doing attrocities. Get lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) Russia has committed war crimes, I never said otherwise. You asked for evidence of Ukraine committing war crimes, and I gave that evidence. I also explained that treating war crimes like a measuring stick is horribly reductive, you've deflected beyond the central question of self determination for the Donbass region. I've done absolutely nothing wrong. Caping for neofascists like you're doing isn't received well here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago That's literally you right now. Unless you care to admit that Ukraine just bombed a girl's school? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children) The war has been going on for over a decade, history didn't start in 2022. Ukraine is regularly shelling civilian populations, just the other day they murdered a dozen teenage girls in a shelling attack. The Statesian/Zionist attack on Minab Elementary School comes to mind as a parallel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev -4 points 5 months ago (2 children) Deflecting, deflecting, deflecting, never admitting for a second that Russia is doing attrocities. Get lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) Russia has committed war crimes, I never said otherwise. You asked for evidence of Ukraine committing war crimes, and I gave that evidence. I also explained that treating war crimes like a measuring stick is horribly reductive, you've deflected beyond the central question of self determination for the Donbass region. I've done absolutely nothing wrong. Caping for neofascists like you're doing isn't received well here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago That's literally you right now. Unless you care to admit that Ukraine just bombed a girl's school? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] msage@programming.dev -4 points 5 months ago (2 children) Deflecting, deflecting, deflecting, never admitting for a second that Russia is doing attrocities. Get lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) Russia has committed war crimes, I never said otherwise. You asked for evidence of Ukraine committing war crimes, and I gave that evidence. I also explained that treating war crimes like a measuring stick is horribly reductive, you've deflected beyond the central question of self determination for the Donbass region. I've done absolutely nothing wrong. Caping for neofascists like you're doing isn't received well here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago That's literally you right now. Unless you care to admit that Ukraine just bombed a girl's school? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) Russia has committed war crimes, I never said otherwise. You asked for evidence of Ukraine committing war crimes, and I gave that evidence. I also explained that treating war crimes like a measuring stick is horribly reductive, you've deflected beyond the central question of self determination for the Donbass region. I've done absolutely nothing wrong. Caping for neofascists like you're doing isn't received well here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago That's literally you right now. Unless you care to admit that Ukraine just bombed a girl's school? permalink fedilink source parent
