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[–] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I want Mastodon threads in Lemmy.

Won't come.

Mastodon has no support for enclosed threaded conversations whatsoever. At all. Why not? Because Twitter has never had any either. That's not how microblogging works. And Mastodon tries hard to be minimalist, purist, old-school, original-gangsta, Twitter-like microblogging, just with a few more characters.

Mastodon barely manages to tie its threads together with mentions. But it neither has nor supports nor even only understands the one-post-multiple-comments conversation model.

You even have to jump through hoops both on Mastodon's Web UI and in every single last Mastodon app to see a whole thread. Like, actually the whole thread and not just the branch with the "toot" that you were just looking at.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    And shit like that is why the Fediverse will ultimately fail.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    On the one hand, Mastodon will kill the Fediverse.

    On the other hand, for the majority of Mastodon users, Mastodon is the Fediverse. (Like, they literally don't know that Mastodon is connected to something, anything, that isn't Mastodon. They think that Mastodon is its own enclosed network.)

    The irony.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I would argue that the lack of vision and the insular development culture of Mastodon combined with it claiming most of the users in microblogging fedi has done more to stunt ActivityPub than any other factor.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    It isn't even only that.

    It's people being told that the Fediverse equals Mastodon for simplicity reasons. Because that's easier to understand than the Fediverse being a network of over 100 different apps with hundreds or thousands of servers each.

    And it's people being told that the Fediverse equals Mastodon because whoever tells them that believes it themself.

    Most Mastodon onboarding is done by people who think that the Fediverse is only Mastodon. At least half of them will spontaneously shit brix once they come across a message from e.g. Friendica or Hubzilla for the first time.

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