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[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago (7 children) I don’t think you want to deal with wormhole TSA, friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (6 children) You go through TSA at the space ports before boarding the ship. The only thing different about going through a wormhole is a bit of turbulence, some spaghettification, and the unverifiable possibility that the physical organism which gets reconstituted on the other side is merely an empty vessel programmed to unconsciously imitate your habits and mannerisms, while the conscious entity that is you actually perished upon the dissolution of your original body. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (5 children) unverifiable possibility that the physical organism which gets reconstituted on the other side is merely an empty vessel programmed to unconsciously imitate your habits and mannerisms Oh yeah, I’ve tried anesthesia before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (4 children) Is that a theory about anesthesia? I haven't heard about that. I'm referring to ideas about teleportation and time travel, in which the physical organism dissolves and is reconstituted, and appears to be alive and conscious on the other side, but the actual conscious entity died upon dissolution and was not resurrected upon reconstitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) Yes, it’s a very similar idea with anesthesia. It uses the same regard for self as being something more than just a meat bag in motion. Anesthesia is understood as a reversible suppression of consciousness, memory, sensation, and awareness. If consciousness completely disappears, how do we know the subjective “you” that wakes up is identical to the one that went under? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (2 children) Now that's got me spooked out about how could I know if I'm even the same person moment-to-moment, or what if every blink of the eye or beat of the hard represents a granular moment in time in which a unique conscious entity that has never arisen before nor ever will again flows in and out of existence, like the flame of a candle which continuously renews itself even as the heat and light of one moments dissipates out into empty space the next; with all the memories of the conscious entities that inhabited the space behind my eyes before it, yet with no true ontological continuity between them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) It is spooky but less so if you subscribe to a more procedural version of consciousness. The phenomenon of phenomenology may mislead us about what the self is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago No yeah, I don't actually believe in what I described, I was just shitting around permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (6 children) You go through TSA at the space ports before boarding the ship. The only thing different about going through a wormhole is a bit of turbulence, some spaghettification, and the unverifiable possibility that the physical organism which gets reconstituted on the other side is merely an empty vessel programmed to unconsciously imitate your habits and mannerisms, while the conscious entity that is you actually perished upon the dissolution of your original body. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (5 children) unverifiable possibility that the physical organism which gets reconstituted on the other side is merely an empty vessel programmed to unconsciously imitate your habits and mannerisms Oh yeah, I’ve tried anesthesia before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (4 children) Is that a theory about anesthesia? I haven't heard about that. I'm referring to ideas about teleportation and time travel, in which the physical organism dissolves and is reconstituted, and appears to be alive and conscious on the other side, but the actual conscious entity died upon dissolution and was not resurrected upon reconstitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) Yes, it’s a very similar idea with anesthesia. It uses the same regard for self as being something more than just a meat bag in motion. Anesthesia is understood as a reversible suppression of consciousness, memory, sensation, and awareness. If consciousness completely disappears, how do we know the subjective “you” that wakes up is identical to the one that went under? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (2 children) Now that's got me spooked out about how could I know if I'm even the same person moment-to-moment, or what if every blink of the eye or beat of the hard represents a granular moment in time in which a unique conscious entity that has never arisen before nor ever will again flows in and out of existence, like the flame of a candle which continuously renews itself even as the heat and light of one moments dissipates out into empty space the next; with all the memories of the conscious entities that inhabited the space behind my eyes before it, yet with no true ontological continuity between them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) It is spooky but less so if you subscribe to a more procedural version of consciousness. The phenomenon of phenomenology may mislead us about what the self is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago No yeah, I don't actually believe in what I described, I was just shitting around permalink fedilink source parent
[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (5 children) unverifiable possibility that the physical organism which gets reconstituted on the other side is merely an empty vessel programmed to unconsciously imitate your habits and mannerisms Oh yeah, I’ve tried anesthesia before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (4 children) Is that a theory about anesthesia? I haven't heard about that. I'm referring to ideas about teleportation and time travel, in which the physical organism dissolves and is reconstituted, and appears to be alive and conscious on the other side, but the actual conscious entity died upon dissolution and was not resurrected upon reconstitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) Yes, it’s a very similar idea with anesthesia. It uses the same regard for self as being something more than just a meat bag in motion. Anesthesia is understood as a reversible suppression of consciousness, memory, sensation, and awareness. If consciousness completely disappears, how do we know the subjective “you” that wakes up is identical to the one that went under? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (2 children) Now that's got me spooked out about how could I know if I'm even the same person moment-to-moment, or what if every blink of the eye or beat of the hard represents a granular moment in time in which a unique conscious entity that has never arisen before nor ever will again flows in and out of existence, like the flame of a candle which continuously renews itself even as the heat and light of one moments dissipates out into empty space the next; with all the memories of the conscious entities that inhabited the space behind my eyes before it, yet with no true ontological continuity between them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) It is spooky but less so if you subscribe to a more procedural version of consciousness. The phenomenon of phenomenology may mislead us about what the self is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago No yeah, I don't actually believe in what I described, I was just shitting around permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (4 children) Is that a theory about anesthesia? I haven't heard about that. I'm referring to ideas about teleportation and time travel, in which the physical organism dissolves and is reconstituted, and appears to be alive and conscious on the other side, but the actual conscious entity died upon dissolution and was not resurrected upon reconstitution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) Yes, it’s a very similar idea with anesthesia. It uses the same regard for self as being something more than just a meat bag in motion. Anesthesia is understood as a reversible suppression of consciousness, memory, sensation, and awareness. If consciousness completely disappears, how do we know the subjective “you” that wakes up is identical to the one that went under? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (2 children) Now that's got me spooked out about how could I know if I'm even the same person moment-to-moment, or what if every blink of the eye or beat of the hard represents a granular moment in time in which a unique conscious entity that has never arisen before nor ever will again flows in and out of existence, like the flame of a candle which continuously renews itself even as the heat and light of one moments dissipates out into empty space the next; with all the memories of the conscious entities that inhabited the space behind my eyes before it, yet with no true ontological continuity between them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) It is spooky but less so if you subscribe to a more procedural version of consciousness. The phenomenon of phenomenology may mislead us about what the self is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago No yeah, I don't actually believe in what I described, I was just shitting around permalink fedilink source parent
[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (3 children) Yes, it’s a very similar idea with anesthesia. It uses the same regard for self as being something more than just a meat bag in motion. Anesthesia is understood as a reversible suppression of consciousness, memory, sensation, and awareness. If consciousness completely disappears, how do we know the subjective “you” that wakes up is identical to the one that went under? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (2 children) Now that's got me spooked out about how could I know if I'm even the same person moment-to-moment, or what if every blink of the eye or beat of the hard represents a granular moment in time in which a unique conscious entity that has never arisen before nor ever will again flows in and out of existence, like the flame of a candle which continuously renews itself even as the heat and light of one moments dissipates out into empty space the next; with all the memories of the conscious entities that inhabited the space behind my eyes before it, yet with no true ontological continuity between them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) It is spooky but less so if you subscribe to a more procedural version of consciousness. The phenomenon of phenomenology may mislead us about what the self is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago No yeah, I don't actually believe in what I described, I was just shitting around permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (2 children) Now that's got me spooked out about how could I know if I'm even the same person moment-to-moment, or what if every blink of the eye or beat of the hard represents a granular moment in time in which a unique conscious entity that has never arisen before nor ever will again flows in and out of existence, like the flame of a candle which continuously renews itself even as the heat and light of one moments dissipates out into empty space the next; with all the memories of the conscious entities that inhabited the space behind my eyes before it, yet with no true ontological continuity between them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) It is spooky but less so if you subscribe to a more procedural version of consciousness. The phenomenon of phenomenology may mislead us about what the self is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago No yeah, I don't actually believe in what I described, I was just shitting around permalink fedilink source parent
[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) It is spooky but less so if you subscribe to a more procedural version of consciousness. The phenomenon of phenomenology may mislead us about what the self is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago No yeah, I don't actually believe in what I described, I was just shitting around permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago No yeah, I don't actually believe in what I described, I was just shitting around permalink fedilink source parent