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[+] -17 points 5 months ago* (7 children)

it is not hosted in the US or a country affiliated with the US, which makes it infinitely more secure from the point of view of sovereign risk

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    The Telegram servers are in Miami, Amsterdam, and Singapore, so some data is still stored in the U.S.

    In any case, it wouldn't be any better to have data stored in a country like China or Russia.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Chinese and Russian authorities can’t steal me from my home and imprison and torture me for the rest of my life

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Oh, you mean the guys who were obviously such criminals they were run out of Russia and Europe and had to settle on being headquarted in Dubai?

    Oh the guys who instead of doing something thoughtful like Mullvad and having RAM only servers with no logs, they just hide all their datacenters behind shell companies to avoid complying with legal subpoenas? That's not completely shady at all, nope.

    I mean, it's not like Matrix or SimpleX chat or others that actually are secure (-ish, even Matrix leaks metadata!) and thoughtfully designed and open source that you can self host or don't need servers or are incorporated in Europe (like Telegram tried to incorporate initially before settling on Dubai).

    Oh and don't forget France had very good reasons to arrest Pavel Durov, co-creator of Telegram. He went on Tucker Carlson to defend himself, which says it all, really.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    pavel not complying with russian or french requests gives me some confidence that if some agency subpoena'd telegram for user records, they might actually have the spine to say no

    Isn't signal basically just a honeypot for feds these days like TOR? i didn't know telegram was also hosted in the US, which is kinda heartbreaking but such is life in the imperial core i suppose

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