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We have to solve the money problem! (blenderdumbass.org)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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[–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

Do you know that the person you just responded to is one of the first subscribers of Communick?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    No, I stopped looking at instance or software a while ago. The threadiverse has seemingly matured enough that the average user doesn't have to care anymore.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's not about the software. I am just pointing out that Communick's instances are only available for paying customers, so his argument (everyone should pay a little bit) is at the very least backed by his own actions.

    Regarding Peertube: I see the problem of Peertube on the other end of what you are saying. People are not using that much because even those that have a presence on PeerTube still depend on YouTube to make money. If PeerTube had a way to help with monetization, then more creators would be interested in publishing exclusively on PeerTube, even if they had to pay something to upload/distribute videos.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Fair point about his actions, and I'm glad to see whales splashing about in the pond with the rest of us. I disagree strongly about everyone paying. We 'pay' by adding content and being members of the community. We pay by expanding the network and being a negative to Reddit. Money shouldn't need to change hands.

    See, I get your point on PeerTube, but I counter with the fact that we did have video online before YouTube. That wasn't the revolution. It was the free hosting and free viewing that made YT a juggernaut. Same with streaming before ryan.tv. Before it was free, it was extremely niche. When monetary investment stopped being needed, it hit the mainstream. If the monetization of video content comes directly from viewers, you will go back to dedicated hobbyists and those who are certain that videos will be funded in advance.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I’m glad to see whales splashing about in the pond with the rest of us.

    What "whale"? Communick costs less than $2.50 per month. It is less than the average donation people send around.

    We ‘pay’ by adding content and being members of the community

    No one can use your content to pay their bills.

    We pay by expanding the network and being a negative to Reddit

    The network is not expanding. It is stuck in this 1M-2M monthly active users (if you count all of the Fediverse) and Lemmy/kbin/piefed is hovering around 50-55k/MAU for two years already.

    Meanwhile, Reddit's revenue has grown 62% in 2024 (from $800M in 2023 to to $1.3B last year). Do you really think they care about losing a few thousand users who are all talk but no bite?

    It was the free hosting and free viewing that made YT a juggernaut.

    There were other platforms offering free video and free hosting as well. There were even p2p alternatives. Remember Joost? It's not that people didn't have a choice then and YouTube was better. It's that could Google leveraged its capital to run Youtube at a loss for as long as needed until there was no competition left.

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