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[–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] -1 points 5 months ago (10 children) It's not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cahSKUYjuTE permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children) Ok, let's think this through. Whoever "hires" them ends with a legally questionable codebase to say the least, that has worst architecture and performance than its open source counterpart, while also being unmaintainable and likely costing more to fix than building something the right way in the first place. So they're taking money from people trying to do this shit? Great. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I don't disagree with you and that's most likely what's going to happen, however it's more so the direction in which this is going which haunts the hell out of me. I'm not just "AI bashing" it's just dystopian. Now we could play this off as just an edgelord CEO if, you know...there wasn't any financial backing to this and genuine interest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 5 months ago tl;dr: edgelord company being a dumbass today, might lead to even more dystopian corporations later(keyword MIGHT) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zagorath 2 points 5 months ago (6 children) I was honestly expecting the link to be too this: https://youtu.be/bpqFZBWcStU Which certainly presents it as though it's sincere. But anyone with basic media literacy and familiarity with the interviewer in that video (and I do mean and. Anyone lacking either of those can be forgiven.) cannot help but realise that it's satire. And if you're unsure, read the comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children) it's. not. satire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cahSKUYjuTE if it's satire once again, when does the joke end? If it actually does what it does. Maybe this is more of an ethics debate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I don't know why you think linking the same video as was in the comment I just replied to adds any value. Are you that video's creator? Is this all just a way to drive clicks? You obviously didn't watch the interview with the actual company's CEO that I linked. Let alone read the comments under it. Let me share one. Despite all the signs that this was a parody, I literally paid them 50 cents for a test "liberation" to see if it was a joke. The tool actually did something, but not only did it violate cleanroom logic by including implementation instructions in the documentation, but the "liberated" code runs almost twice as slow as the original. And to make it even funnier, the "liberated" code was licensed under... the exact same MIT license as the original. So…it doesn't do what it says it does. It's a company literally called "evil". The CEO did an interviewer with an AI satirist and he completely refused to take it seriously, saying things like "we receive a lot of love letters…asking as where we live", "we're liberating the world of open source software", and "if people don't like the work that we do, they might like the work that our customers do even less, because our customers are the ones that are paying us for our services, and we're just making our bag". This is obviously not a serious product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 5 months ago made an edit, I'm properly taking the L for this, imy only defense is that it's a strange piece of satire. Still 100% my fault though, will probably delete the post lol. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) it ends when whoever buys their services realizes they're spending more with duct tape around generated code than just by using an open source library and giving credit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I made an edit on this matter but yes it is indeed satire, apologies, however it's still pretty strange how they did this...i agree with you though vibecoding and close sourcing your shit is just so useless. I can't believe I fell for it but I'm relieved I'm not the only one, and again, despite what you said, how is this still technically satire if it works as intended? No matter how bad it is, the joke doesn't land once you involve money and an actual product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) I'm not even sure it does work. Prime only tried trivial packages, but based on my experience with agentic coding, I'm not convinced they're able to deliver a fully functional package of medium size while being truly clean room. Also, there's an anecdotal comment on youtube of someone who tried this (on a small package) and they mention the clean room was violated (the AI added implementation instructions to the documentation), had performance issues, and the best part, the generated code had an MIT license. Now I wish Prime had looked at the LICENSE files created. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children) Ok, let's think this through. Whoever "hires" them ends with a legally questionable codebase to say the least, that has worst architecture and performance than its open source counterpart, while also being unmaintainable and likely costing more to fix than building something the right way in the first place. So they're taking money from people trying to do this shit? Great. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I don't disagree with you and that's most likely what's going to happen, however it's more so the direction in which this is going which haunts the hell out of me. I'm not just "AI bashing" it's just dystopian. Now we could play this off as just an edgelord CEO if, you know...there wasn't any financial backing to this and genuine interest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 5 months ago tl;dr: edgelord company being a dumbass today, might lead to even more dystopian corporations later(keyword MIGHT) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I don't disagree with you and that's most likely what's going to happen, however it's more so the direction in which this is going which haunts the hell out of me. I'm not just "AI bashing" it's just dystopian. Now we could play this off as just an edgelord CEO if, you know...there wasn't any financial backing to this and genuine interest. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 5 months ago tl;dr: edgelord company being a dumbass today, might lead to even more dystopian corporations later(keyword MIGHT) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 5 months ago tl;dr: edgelord company being a dumbass today, might lead to even more dystopian corporations later(keyword MIGHT) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zagorath 2 points 5 months ago (6 children) I was honestly expecting the link to be too this: https://youtu.be/bpqFZBWcStU Which certainly presents it as though it's sincere. But anyone with basic media literacy and familiarity with the interviewer in that video (and I do mean and. Anyone lacking either of those can be forgiven.) cannot help but realise that it's satire. And if you're unsure, read the comments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children) it's. not. satire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cahSKUYjuTE if it's satire once again, when does the joke end? If it actually does what it does. Maybe this is more of an ethics debate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I don't know why you think linking the same video as was in the comment I just replied to adds any value. Are you that video's creator? Is this all just a way to drive clicks? You obviously didn't watch the interview with the actual company's CEO that I linked. Let alone read the comments under it. Let me share one. Despite all the signs that this was a parody, I literally paid them 50 cents for a test "liberation" to see if it was a joke. The tool actually did something, but not only did it violate cleanroom logic by including implementation instructions in the documentation, but the "liberated" code runs almost twice as slow as the original. And to make it even funnier, the "liberated" code was licensed under... the exact same MIT license as the original. So…it doesn't do what it says it does. It's a company literally called "evil". The CEO did an interviewer with an AI satirist and he completely refused to take it seriously, saying things like "we receive a lot of love letters…asking as where we live", "we're liberating the world of open source software", and "if people don't like the work that we do, they might like the work that our customers do even less, because our customers are the ones that are paying us for our services, and we're just making our bag". This is obviously not a serious product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 5 months ago made an edit, I'm properly taking the L for this, imy only defense is that it's a strange piece of satire. Still 100% my fault though, will probably delete the post lol. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) it ends when whoever buys their services realizes they're spending more with duct tape around generated code than just by using an open source library and giving credit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I made an edit on this matter but yes it is indeed satire, apologies, however it's still pretty strange how they did this...i agree with you though vibecoding and close sourcing your shit is just so useless. I can't believe I fell for it but I'm relieved I'm not the only one, and again, despite what you said, how is this still technically satire if it works as intended? No matter how bad it is, the joke doesn't land once you involve money and an actual product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) I'm not even sure it does work. Prime only tried trivial packages, but based on my experience with agentic coding, I'm not convinced they're able to deliver a fully functional package of medium size while being truly clean room. Also, there's an anecdotal comment on youtube of someone who tried this (on a small package) and they mention the clean room was violated (the AI added implementation instructions to the documentation), had performance issues, and the best part, the generated code had an MIT license. Now I wish Prime had looked at the LICENSE files created. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children) it's. not. satire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cahSKUYjuTE if it's satire once again, when does the joke end? If it actually does what it does. Maybe this is more of an ethics debate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I don't know why you think linking the same video as was in the comment I just replied to adds any value. Are you that video's creator? Is this all just a way to drive clicks? You obviously didn't watch the interview with the actual company's CEO that I linked. Let alone read the comments under it. Let me share one. Despite all the signs that this was a parody, I literally paid them 50 cents for a test "liberation" to see if it was a joke. The tool actually did something, but not only did it violate cleanroom logic by including implementation instructions in the documentation, but the "liberated" code runs almost twice as slow as the original. And to make it even funnier, the "liberated" code was licensed under... the exact same MIT license as the original. So…it doesn't do what it says it does. It's a company literally called "evil". The CEO did an interviewer with an AI satirist and he completely refused to take it seriously, saying things like "we receive a lot of love letters…asking as where we live", "we're liberating the world of open source software", and "if people don't like the work that we do, they might like the work that our customers do even less, because our customers are the ones that are paying us for our services, and we're just making our bag". This is obviously not a serious product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 5 months ago made an edit, I'm properly taking the L for this, imy only defense is that it's a strange piece of satire. Still 100% my fault though, will probably delete the post lol. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) it ends when whoever buys their services realizes they're spending more with duct tape around generated code than just by using an open source library and giving credit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I made an edit on this matter but yes it is indeed satire, apologies, however it's still pretty strange how they did this...i agree with you though vibecoding and close sourcing your shit is just so useless. I can't believe I fell for it but I'm relieved I'm not the only one, and again, despite what you said, how is this still technically satire if it works as intended? No matter how bad it is, the joke doesn't land once you involve money and an actual product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) I'm not even sure it does work. Prime only tried trivial packages, but based on my experience with agentic coding, I'm not convinced they're able to deliver a fully functional package of medium size while being truly clean room. Also, there's an anecdotal comment on youtube of someone who tried this (on a small package) and they mention the clean room was violated (the AI added implementation instructions to the documentation), had performance issues, and the best part, the generated code had an MIT license. Now I wish Prime had looked at the LICENSE files created. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zagorath 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I don't know why you think linking the same video as was in the comment I just replied to adds any value. Are you that video's creator? Is this all just a way to drive clicks? You obviously didn't watch the interview with the actual company's CEO that I linked. Let alone read the comments under it. Let me share one. Despite all the signs that this was a parody, I literally paid them 50 cents for a test "liberation" to see if it was a joke. The tool actually did something, but not only did it violate cleanroom logic by including implementation instructions in the documentation, but the "liberated" code runs almost twice as slow as the original. And to make it even funnier, the "liberated" code was licensed under... the exact same MIT license as the original. So…it doesn't do what it says it does. It's a company literally called "evil". The CEO did an interviewer with an AI satirist and he completely refused to take it seriously, saying things like "we receive a lot of love letters…asking as where we live", "we're liberating the world of open source software", and "if people don't like the work that we do, they might like the work that our customers do even less, because our customers are the ones that are paying us for our services, and we're just making our bag". This is obviously not a serious product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 5 months ago made an edit, I'm properly taking the L for this, imy only defense is that it's a strange piece of satire. Still 100% my fault though, will probably delete the post lol. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 2 points 5 months ago made an edit, I'm properly taking the L for this, imy only defense is that it's a strange piece of satire. Still 100% my fault though, will probably delete the post lol. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) it ends when whoever buys their services realizes they're spending more with duct tape around generated code than just by using an open source library and giving credit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I made an edit on this matter but yes it is indeed satire, apologies, however it's still pretty strange how they did this...i agree with you though vibecoding and close sourcing your shit is just so useless. I can't believe I fell for it but I'm relieved I'm not the only one, and again, despite what you said, how is this still technically satire if it works as intended? No matter how bad it is, the joke doesn't land once you involve money and an actual product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) I'm not even sure it does work. Prime only tried trivial packages, but based on my experience with agentic coding, I'm not convinced they're able to deliver a fully functional package of medium size while being truly clean room. Also, there's an anecdotal comment on youtube of someone who tried this (on a small package) and they mention the clean room was violated (the AI added implementation instructions to the documentation), had performance issues, and the best part, the generated code had an MIT license. Now I wish Prime had looked at the LICENSE files created. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rebornAnew@lemmy.zip [S] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I made an edit on this matter but yes it is indeed satire, apologies, however it's still pretty strange how they did this...i agree with you though vibecoding and close sourcing your shit is just so useless. I can't believe I fell for it but I'm relieved I'm not the only one, and again, despite what you said, how is this still technically satire if it works as intended? No matter how bad it is, the joke doesn't land once you involve money and an actual product. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) I'm not even sure it does work. Prime only tried trivial packages, but based on my experience with agentic coding, I'm not convinced they're able to deliver a fully functional package of medium size while being truly clean room. Also, there's an anecdotal comment on youtube of someone who tried this (on a small package) and they mention the clean room was violated (the AI added implementation instructions to the documentation), had performance issues, and the best part, the generated code had an MIT license. Now I wish Prime had looked at the LICENSE files created. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) I'm not even sure it does work. Prime only tried trivial packages, but based on my experience with agentic coding, I'm not convinced they're able to deliver a fully functional package of medium size while being truly clean room. Also, there's an anecdotal comment on youtube of someone who tried this (on a small package) and they mention the clean room was violated (the AI added implementation instructions to the documentation), had performance issues, and the best part, the generated code had an MIT license. Now I wish Prime had looked at the LICENSE files created. permalink fedilink source parent