▲ 117 ▼ A lot of people in the middle of the Bell Curve on this one Early Modern Period (~1600 AD) (thelemmy.club) submitted 5 months ago by Grumpus_Maximus@thelemmy.club to c/historymemes@piefed.social 50 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (4 children) How were early bows better than javelins? permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@piefed.world 8 points 5 months ago You could easily carry more arrows than javelins and even early bows had an accuracy advantage at range. Bows replaced slings, which were very effective but bows left sticks stuck through people when they didn't kill and disabling some is as good as killing them on a battlefield. It wasn't all upsides since bows are more likely to be affected by moisture. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (2 children) Javelins had their end times when shield walls stopped being a thing, the key function of a javelin was to bend on impact and make it arwkard to move. Accuracy wasnt great but hitting a shield was easier than a person. Once people stopped using shield walls hitting someone with a javelin became much harder. Arrows you can throw 500 into the air and a 25% hit rate will be seen as a success, you also do it from a greater range. Enter the gun and you get even longer range and arguably better accuracy. Guns and bows were used in parraell until guns gained the ability to be reloaded quickly - one step after muskets and one shot hand guns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago (1 child) the key function of a javelin was to bend on impact and make it arwkard to move. That is pretty much exclusively a roman pilum thing. Other javelins were just regular spears optimised to be thrown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago As I was writing it I wondered if that fact was right. Thank you for checking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snooggums@piefed.world 8 points 5 months ago You could easily carry more arrows than javelins and even early bows had an accuracy advantage at range. Bows replaced slings, which were very effective but bows left sticks stuck through people when they didn't kill and disabling some is as good as killing them on a battlefield. It wasn't all upsides since bows are more likely to be affected by moisture. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (2 children) Javelins had their end times when shield walls stopped being a thing, the key function of a javelin was to bend on impact and make it arwkard to move. Accuracy wasnt great but hitting a shield was easier than a person. Once people stopped using shield walls hitting someone with a javelin became much harder. Arrows you can throw 500 into the air and a 25% hit rate will be seen as a success, you also do it from a greater range. Enter the gun and you get even longer range and arguably better accuracy. Guns and bows were used in parraell until guns gained the ability to be reloaded quickly - one step after muskets and one shot hand guns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago (1 child) the key function of a javelin was to bend on impact and make it arwkard to move. That is pretty much exclusively a roman pilum thing. Other javelins were just regular spears optimised to be thrown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago As I was writing it I wondered if that fact was right. Thank you for checking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago (1 child) the key function of a javelin was to bend on impact and make it arwkard to move. That is pretty much exclusively a roman pilum thing. Other javelins were just regular spears optimised to be thrown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago As I was writing it I wondered if that fact was right. Thank you for checking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago As I was writing it I wondered if that fact was right. Thank you for checking. permalink fedilink source parent