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[+] 39 points 1 year ago (20 children)
  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Oh, it wasn't the UN that was the intended recipient of that particular message. That's why it was sent publicly...

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    You typically need to notify other members of a treaty of your withdrawal, and then there's some time delay until you're no longer bound by the terms. You can't just secretly withdraw, or treaties wouldn't be very meaningful.

    EDIT: Yeah. The submitted article says that it happens in six months from today, and here's the treaty text on withdrawal:

    https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.44_convention%20antipersonnel%20mines.pdf

    Article 20

    Duration and withdrawal

    1. This Convention shall be of unlimited duration.

    2. Each State Party shall, in exercising its national sovereignty, have the right to withdraw from this Convention. It shall give notice of such withdrawal to all other States Parties, to the Depositary and to the United Nations Security Council. Such instrument of withdrawal shall include a full explanation of the reasons motivating this withdrawal.

    3. Such withdrawal shall only take effect six months after the receipt of the instrument of withdrawal by the Depositary. If, however, on the expiry of that six- month period, the withdrawing State Party is engaged in an armed conflict, the withdrawal shall not take effect before the end of the armed conflict.

    4. The withdrawal of a State Party from this Convention shall not in any way affect the duty of States to continue fulfilling the obligations assumed under any relevant rules of international law.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Absolutely! You are quite right. However, my interpretation of this message is not necessarily "we might reconsider our stance on troop mines". Rather it is: "we will go to any lengths, even those we find barbaric and cruel, to defend our nation". Although on the face of it, it is the wording of the agreement that sets the formalities.

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  • Point 3 looks like a pretty obvious poison pill. That is: Russia could conceivably start some sort of grey-zone conflict with Finland before the 6-month period, and thus (per international law) tie Finland’s hands in their use of defensive land mines.

    In Finland’s shoes, it’d be prudent to just go “yeah we’re breaking the treaty, and were specifically ignoring Article 20 Section 3 due to urgent national security considerations”.

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  • [+] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yes they do. This is a deterrent, not a last-ditch effort to protect ourselves if war breaks out.

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  • [+] -29 points 1 year ago (11 children)
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    When did blahaj become the new tankie instance?

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    said the guy ( @neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) from anarchist instance downvoting replies talking down on people in disguise being in favor of others favoring Trump a common single user doesnt define a whole instance, your instance is great but your take.. 🤭

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Lmaooo did you just stalk my profile because I downvoted your comment? That's fucking embarassing my dude!

    I downvoted your comment because it gave me strong gatekeeping vibes (realy canadians don't xyz)

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    realy canadians don’t xyz

    you are just trying to picture a whole group of people to be like you say again. also poorly elaborated and mispelling i wouldnt be surprised if you are from a troll farm

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    This is your comment that I downvoted:

    oddly one of your downvotes come from a lemmy.ca user @usr@lemmy.ca which is odd any sane Canadian wouldn't be mad about such question

    oddly one of your downvotes come from a lemmy.ca user @usr@lemmy.ca which is odd any sane Canadian wouldn't be mad about such question

    But I am "just trying to picture a whole group of people to be like you say" for disagreeing and downvoting you?

    How does this need elaboration? Especially since this is your own comment?

    i wouldnt be surprised if you are from a troll farm

    Ditto. You're either a Troll or special.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    so you put up my reply but not the comment which i replied to have more context? kudos to trying to picture yourself not being the troll

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