Truman had it right when he described MacArthur as a "stupid son-of-a-bitch" Life is truly noncredible GOD I WANT TO DIE IN A NUCLEAR WAR (media.piefed.social)
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] -1 points 6 months ago* (10 children)

I could be underestimating how constantly drunk Stalin was, but I like to think he wouldn't engage in battles that he has absolutely zero chance of winning. A world where China has been taken off the board is a world where USSR has less allies and is surrounded on all sides. Just like China is doing as Russia is losing, the USSR would have done next to nothing while China lost.

Any alternate reality where the CCP doesn't exist is enviable to some degree. We should have brought the entirety of China to a knee when we could have.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 10 child comments
  • [–] [S] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I could be underestimating how constantly drunk Stalin was, but I like to think he wouldn’t engage in battles that he has absolutely zero chance of winning.

    The US public was tired of the Korean War in 1953. How would Stalin estimate, do you think, the American public supporting an unprovoked nuclear assault and invasion against a much larger and more dangerous enemy in Communist China and the Soviet Union simultaneously, with probably the withdrawal of the entirety of our major allies from the war?

    A world where China has been taken off the board is a world where USSR has less allies and is surrounded on all sides.

    ... which is exactly why the USSR would not have let China fall at that juncture. "Just let your enemies isolate you, just stand by and do nothing" is not a very likely course of action for the USSR.

    Any alternate reality where the CCP doesn’t exist is enviable to some degree.

    Fuck no. There are always worse scenarios on every aspect of reality. That's the same kind of campism tankies use when they say that "any" outcome to mass unrest is better than the status quo. It reflects a distinct and severe lack of imagination, or else an irrational disposition towards the status in question that is entirely divorced from actual moral or strategic concerns.

    We should have brought the entirety of China to a knee when we could have.

    ...

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    In the early 1950s, we've already established that the USSR lacks the means to put up much of a retaliation even if they wanted to. Every moment after that point was too late, it's why the USA has effectively lost the Cold War to China with the reelection of their favored candidate Trump.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] [S] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    In the early 1950s, we’ve already established that the USSR lacks the means to put up much of a retaliation even if they wanted to.

    Other than the overwhelming concern of conventional fucking war, the Soviet Union had several dozen nuclear weapons ready to go during the Korean War. Or are we going to glass the Soviet Union now too, with our early 1950s stockpile and delivery systems?

    Every moment after that point was too late, it’s why the USA has effectively lost the Cold War to China with the reelection of their favored candidate Trump.

    ... China's favored candidate was by no means Trump, in any of the three elections.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago*

    I saw the Beijing operated psyops TikTok cocksucking for Trump left and right before and after the election. China favored Trump because China recognized Clinton, Biden, and Harris as both competent US leaders and more formidable adversaries in terms of geopolitical conflict and strategy.

    Trump has done so much for China that it's absurd:

    1. Destroyed the USA's place as top scientific world power
    2. Undone the USA's economic leadership role
    3. Irreparably damaged NATO's cooperative capabilities
    4. Saved China from the forced sale or shutdown of TikTok by instead making them simply majority shareholders
    5. Lifted economic sanctions from Russia

    China celebrated the Trump reelection with conviction. Xi Jinping rained praise down upon him.

    Not to mention, the literal endorsement of Trump by tankie hives like ML and Hexbear leading up to the election.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (5 children)

    It's funny that today the general idea of the rest of the world is "we should have stopped the US when it was weak, fighting the British".

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    If you dislike the USA to such an extent then surely you should be happy about such hypothetical conflicts, yes? Perhaps you simple dislike the idea of certain countries losing?

    Given that the USA is the leader of the world's largest mutual self defence pacts, and that almost all of China's allies are non-democracies, I would feel extremely comfortable wagering that the world at large prefers the USA and at the very least considers them a necessary evil.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    The US WAS the leader of NATO. Now it's just the bully and everyone is starting to think that maybe it wasn't that good of a deal depend on them.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments