▲ 43 ▼ Do you believe in separating the work from the artist? (piefed.ca) submitted 6 months ago by Sunshine@piefed.ca to c/ask@piefed.social 69 comments fedilink hide all child comments I personally don’t because I view giving any kind of support as subsidising their problematic views.
[+] msokiovt@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (8 children) If the work is being commoditized to promote harmful ideas, then no matter how good the art is, it should be shunned. If the art is good but the artist used to have problematic views or opinions, then that’s different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) there is no such thing as a harmful idea. i think you mean 'there are ideas i don't agree with and i don't think should exist'. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Any idea that if actualized into government policy, that would lead to increased rates of harm for people, is in fact a harmful idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago ok, so now we're talking about government policies, not ideas. and only policies that 'harm' people. whatever harm means.... because i'm fairly confident every policy has people it 'harms' and those it benefits. the question is who and how... permalink fedilink source parent [+] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago* (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) exactly. i just had to block a moron who tried to argue with me how wrong i was and how stupid i was for not agreeing with them... when my comment said i don't tolerate people lecturing me about how wrong i am. something 90% of comments I get here these days are idiots who didn't read what i said and feel the compulsion to lecture me about how stupid I am by putting words in my mouth and arguing against them. they are basically shadowing boxing against their own imaginations. but a lot of people here are living far more in their own imaginary perfect moral universe and get VERY upset that other people aren't them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) However, if the work is political, religious, or economic, and you can't separate that, this is completely understandable on some levels The key issue I had with this is, is sometimes the work itself is none of those things, but the artist is. Specifically in the case for a certain magical school and the author of said work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago* sometimes it's neither, and people read their own beliefs onto things, or they disliked it for a petty reason and need to make up a more substantial reason because they don't want to seem petty to other people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (8 children) If the work is being commoditized to promote harmful ideas, then no matter how good the art is, it should be shunned. If the art is good but the artist used to have problematic views or opinions, then that’s different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) there is no such thing as a harmful idea. i think you mean 'there are ideas i don't agree with and i don't think should exist'. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Any idea that if actualized into government policy, that would lead to increased rates of harm for people, is in fact a harmful idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago ok, so now we're talking about government policies, not ideas. and only policies that 'harm' people. whatever harm means.... because i'm fairly confident every policy has people it 'harms' and those it benefits. the question is who and how... permalink fedilink source parent [+] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago* (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) exactly. i just had to block a moron who tried to argue with me how wrong i was and how stupid i was for not agreeing with them... when my comment said i don't tolerate people lecturing me about how wrong i am. something 90% of comments I get here these days are idiots who didn't read what i said and feel the compulsion to lecture me about how stupid I am by putting words in my mouth and arguing against them. they are basically shadowing boxing against their own imaginations. but a lot of people here are living far more in their own imaginary perfect moral universe and get VERY upset that other people aren't them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) However, if the work is political, religious, or economic, and you can't separate that, this is completely understandable on some levels The key issue I had with this is, is sometimes the work itself is none of those things, but the artist is. Specifically in the case for a certain magical school and the author of said work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago* sometimes it's neither, and people read their own beliefs onto things, or they disliked it for a petty reason and need to make up a more substantial reason because they don't want to seem petty to other people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) there is no such thing as a harmful idea. i think you mean 'there are ideas i don't agree with and i don't think should exist'. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Any idea that if actualized into government policy, that would lead to increased rates of harm for people, is in fact a harmful idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago ok, so now we're talking about government policies, not ideas. and only policies that 'harm' people. whatever harm means.... because i'm fairly confident every policy has people it 'harms' and those it benefits. the question is who and how... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Any idea that if actualized into government policy, that would lead to increased rates of harm for people, is in fact a harmful idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago ok, so now we're talking about government policies, not ideas. and only policies that 'harm' people. whatever harm means.... because i'm fairly confident every policy has people it 'harms' and those it benefits. the question is who and how... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago ok, so now we're talking about government policies, not ideas. and only policies that 'harm' people. whatever harm means.... because i'm fairly confident every policy has people it 'harms' and those it benefits. the question is who and how... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago* (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) exactly. i just had to block a moron who tried to argue with me how wrong i was and how stupid i was for not agreeing with them... when my comment said i don't tolerate people lecturing me about how wrong i am. something 90% of comments I get here these days are idiots who didn't read what i said and feel the compulsion to lecture me about how stupid I am by putting words in my mouth and arguing against them. they are basically shadowing boxing against their own imaginations. but a lot of people here are living far more in their own imaginary perfect moral universe and get VERY upset that other people aren't them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) However, if the work is political, religious, or economic, and you can't separate that, this is completely understandable on some levels The key issue I had with this is, is sometimes the work itself is none of those things, but the artist is. Specifically in the case for a certain magical school and the author of said work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago* sometimes it's neither, and people read their own beliefs onto things, or they disliked it for a petty reason and need to make up a more substantial reason because they don't want to seem petty to other people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) exactly. i just had to block a moron who tried to argue with me how wrong i was and how stupid i was for not agreeing with them... when my comment said i don't tolerate people lecturing me about how wrong i am. something 90% of comments I get here these days are idiots who didn't read what i said and feel the compulsion to lecture me about how stupid I am by putting words in my mouth and arguing against them. they are basically shadowing boxing against their own imaginations. but a lot of people here are living far more in their own imaginary perfect moral universe and get VERY upset that other people aren't them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) However, if the work is political, religious, or economic, and you can't separate that, this is completely understandable on some levels The key issue I had with this is, is sometimes the work itself is none of those things, but the artist is. Specifically in the case for a certain magical school and the author of said work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago* sometimes it's neither, and people read their own beliefs onto things, or they disliked it for a petty reason and need to make up a more substantial reason because they don't want to seem petty to other people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago* sometimes it's neither, and people read their own beliefs onto things, or they disliked it for a petty reason and need to make up a more substantial reason because they don't want to seem petty to other people. permalink fedilink source parent