▲ 202 ▼ "cuz, y'know, China bad." (lemmy.ml) submitted 6 months ago by culprit@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 275 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (8 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago (7 children) The communist party controls the state, and not everyone is a member. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (6 children) No just one out of every 14 people, which you may notice is many thousands of times more democratic than any of the western so-called democracies by percentage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world -7 points 6 months ago (5 children) So 13 out of 14 people do not belong to the only political coalition (the 8 parties with 700,000 members total don't really count as "opposition parties") that is legally allowed in their country? In reference to my original post, we agree that authoritarianism is bad and you are arguing the case that China and the CCP is not authoritarian, correct? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (4 children) They seem to be doing a pretty good job we agree that authoritarianism is bad No. We disagree that "authoritarianism" is a meaningful distinction when every government exists by authority. Might as well call it "badguyism" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world -6 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) "I'm not gonna listen because my government has already told me that Enemy is Bad" Worldview so fragile permalink fedilink source parent [+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -7 points 6 months ago (2 children) Why do you believe the "democracy perceptions index"? Take a look at their supporters... like Palantir and Microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago Oh, two corporate entities tightly bound up with American imperialism and who therefore have every incentive to lie in the opposite direction? Like yeah dude, it's a Harvard study, of course they're tangled up in US bourgeoisie shit. If it was a Chinese survey you'd be dismissing it for not being a Harvard study permalink fedilink source parent [–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago They have no interest in portraying China positively, when a person or source you mistrust publishes something against their best interest it makes it a lot more likely that it's true (like the CIA saying the USSR was democratic despite being enemies) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago (7 children) The communist party controls the state, and not everyone is a member. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (6 children) No just one out of every 14 people, which you may notice is many thousands of times more democratic than any of the western so-called democracies by percentage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world -7 points 6 months ago (5 children) So 13 out of 14 people do not belong to the only political coalition (the 8 parties with 700,000 members total don't really count as "opposition parties") that is legally allowed in their country? In reference to my original post, we agree that authoritarianism is bad and you are arguing the case that China and the CCP is not authoritarian, correct? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (4 children) They seem to be doing a pretty good job we agree that authoritarianism is bad No. We disagree that "authoritarianism" is a meaningful distinction when every government exists by authority. Might as well call it "badguyism" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world -6 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) "I'm not gonna listen because my government has already told me that Enemy is Bad" Worldview so fragile permalink fedilink source parent [+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -7 points 6 months ago (2 children) Why do you believe the "democracy perceptions index"? Take a look at their supporters... like Palantir and Microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago Oh, two corporate entities tightly bound up with American imperialism and who therefore have every incentive to lie in the opposite direction? Like yeah dude, it's a Harvard study, of course they're tangled up in US bourgeoisie shit. If it was a Chinese survey you'd be dismissing it for not being a Harvard study permalink fedilink source parent [–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago They have no interest in portraying China positively, when a person or source you mistrust publishes something against their best interest it makes it a lot more likely that it's true (like the CIA saying the USSR was democratic despite being enemies) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (6 children) No just one out of every 14 people, which you may notice is many thousands of times more democratic than any of the western so-called democracies by percentage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world -7 points 6 months ago (5 children) So 13 out of 14 people do not belong to the only political coalition (the 8 parties with 700,000 members total don't really count as "opposition parties") that is legally allowed in their country? In reference to my original post, we agree that authoritarianism is bad and you are arguing the case that China and the CCP is not authoritarian, correct? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (4 children) They seem to be doing a pretty good job we agree that authoritarianism is bad No. We disagree that "authoritarianism" is a meaningful distinction when every government exists by authority. Might as well call it "badguyism" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world -6 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) "I'm not gonna listen because my government has already told me that Enemy is Bad" Worldview so fragile permalink fedilink source parent [+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -7 points 6 months ago (2 children) Why do you believe the "democracy perceptions index"? Take a look at their supporters... like Palantir and Microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago Oh, two corporate entities tightly bound up with American imperialism and who therefore have every incentive to lie in the opposite direction? Like yeah dude, it's a Harvard study, of course they're tangled up in US bourgeoisie shit. If it was a Chinese survey you'd be dismissing it for not being a Harvard study permalink fedilink source parent [–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago They have no interest in portraying China positively, when a person or source you mistrust publishes something against their best interest it makes it a lot more likely that it's true (like the CIA saying the USSR was democratic despite being enemies) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world -7 points 6 months ago (5 children) So 13 out of 14 people do not belong to the only political coalition (the 8 parties with 700,000 members total don't really count as "opposition parties") that is legally allowed in their country? In reference to my original post, we agree that authoritarianism is bad and you are arguing the case that China and the CCP is not authoritarian, correct? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (4 children) They seem to be doing a pretty good job we agree that authoritarianism is bad No. We disagree that "authoritarianism" is a meaningful distinction when every government exists by authority. Might as well call it "badguyism" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world -6 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) "I'm not gonna listen because my government has already told me that Enemy is Bad" Worldview so fragile permalink fedilink source parent [+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -7 points 6 months ago (2 children) Why do you believe the "democracy perceptions index"? Take a look at their supporters... like Palantir and Microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago Oh, two corporate entities tightly bound up with American imperialism and who therefore have every incentive to lie in the opposite direction? Like yeah dude, it's a Harvard study, of course they're tangled up in US bourgeoisie shit. If it was a Chinese survey you'd be dismissing it for not being a Harvard study permalink fedilink source parent [–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago They have no interest in portraying China positively, when a person or source you mistrust publishes something against their best interest it makes it a lot more likely that it's true (like the CIA saying the USSR was democratic despite being enemies) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (4 children) They seem to be doing a pretty good job we agree that authoritarianism is bad No. We disagree that "authoritarianism" is a meaningful distinction when every government exists by authority. Might as well call it "badguyism" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world -6 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) "I'm not gonna listen because my government has already told me that Enemy is Bad" Worldview so fragile permalink fedilink source parent [+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -7 points 6 months ago (2 children) Why do you believe the "democracy perceptions index"? Take a look at their supporters... like Palantir and Microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago Oh, two corporate entities tightly bound up with American imperialism and who therefore have every incentive to lie in the opposite direction? Like yeah dude, it's a Harvard study, of course they're tangled up in US bourgeoisie shit. If it was a Chinese survey you'd be dismissing it for not being a Harvard study permalink fedilink source parent [–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago They have no interest in portraying China positively, when a person or source you mistrust publishes something against their best interest it makes it a lot more likely that it's true (like the CIA saying the USSR was democratic despite being enemies) permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world -6 points 6 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) "I'm not gonna listen because my government has already told me that Enemy is Bad" Worldview so fragile permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) "I'm not gonna listen because my government has already told me that Enemy is Bad" Worldview so fragile permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world -7 points 6 months ago (2 children) Why do you believe the "democracy perceptions index"? Take a look at their supporters... like Palantir and Microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago Oh, two corporate entities tightly bound up with American imperialism and who therefore have every incentive to lie in the opposite direction? Like yeah dude, it's a Harvard study, of course they're tangled up in US bourgeoisie shit. If it was a Chinese survey you'd be dismissing it for not being a Harvard study permalink fedilink source parent [–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago They have no interest in portraying China positively, when a person or source you mistrust publishes something against their best interest it makes it a lot more likely that it's true (like the CIA saying the USSR was democratic despite being enemies) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago Oh, two corporate entities tightly bound up with American imperialism and who therefore have every incentive to lie in the opposite direction? Like yeah dude, it's a Harvard study, of course they're tangled up in US bourgeoisie shit. If it was a Chinese survey you'd be dismissing it for not being a Harvard study permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago They have no interest in portraying China positively, when a person or source you mistrust publishes something against their best interest it makes it a lot more likely that it's true (like the CIA saying the USSR was democratic despite being enemies) permalink fedilink source parent
