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How do we prevent another far-right kook from being elected president in the future? (lemmy.org)
submitted 6 months ago by to c/usa@lemmy.ml
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[–] -2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Blame individuals for quiting. They are the ones that did it. The people you are complaining about were the alternatives to vote for. If the action is so bad then why would you want to vote for them?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I blame the party for offering them inducements to quit and making it know they'd ratfuck anyone who didn't go along with the plan.

    But mostly I blame Blue MAGA cultists who've kept their eyes squeezed tight shut any time their party is just as bad as the other one and every time the party has played dirty tricks to keep its donors happy at the expense of its voters. Because y'all are the ones letting them get away with it and continuing to reward the behavior with your vote.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    I vote in the primaries and have witnessed vote counting. The process has insane levels of integrity. Again im not sure why you would want to vote for people that do things based on inducements. What happens when they are elected and get corporate inducements. The Blue MAGA term is disengenous since your talking about people trying to keep republicans (maga being their current iteration) which is why im putting an end to this. When someone loses a race they don't look at the winner and say. I need to not do what they are doing. Ill discuss to some degree but not going to be drawn into an insult contest.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago*

    I worked as a volunteer and then paid staffer on Democratic campaigns for a decade. I know good and well the kinds of dirty tricks the party can and does use to ensure the "right" candidate wins a primary. The fact that you don't want to understand the argument doesn't invalidate the argument. The Democratic Party exists to give the left flank enough faith in the system to keep them from revolting, they serve no other purpose.

    Blue MAGA is a perfectly apt term for the people who put party loyalty above critical thinking. The people who decry Trump's immigration policy but happily voted for Kamala when she ran on an identical policy. The people who don't believe that there were kids in cages at the border before and after Trump's first term bcs that would require accepting that Obama and Biden weren't much better than Trump. The kinds of people that believe Trump mysteriously appeared out of nowhere and refuse to accept the twin facts that decades of bipartisan neoliberalism made someone like Trump inevitable, and that Hillary Clinton's campaign allies deliberately pushed their tame media talking heads to normalize Trump, ensuring that the slide to fascism would start in 2016, when it could have been delayed another 10-15 years. The kinds of people who'll scold people with principles for not voting against those principles rather than blame their party for running a candidate that principled voters could not accept.

    When someone loses a race, they shouldn't look at the comprehensive post mortem of the campaign and decide that since the things it says aren't acceptable to the donors they'll ignore it and keep punching left. But they did, and it doesn't seem to have dampened the enthusiasm of Blue MAGA in the slightest.

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