I don't think we can get anywhere if we try to debate based on what you or I personally think is funny. That's why I specifically mentioned "the punchline". Since the entire point of the punchline is to say the point of the joke, which is basically to make it obvious, I thought I was cleverly avoiding replies based on personal perspective. I hoped we could all agree that if we looked at a list of jokes that is generally agreed to be funny, most of them would be obvious after the punchline.
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