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[+] -10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

They're horrible because they disagree with the amount of Nazis in Ukraine?

What percentage of Nazis in Ukraine would you consider "tolerant", when does the switch flip from "tolerant" to "intolerant"?

Everyone gets called Nazis, sitting at a table with Nazis makes you a Nazi, and so on.

but also, the ukrainian state genuinely has a nazi problem, not that russia’s invasion had anything to do with that really

propaganda doesn't make it wrong. They DO genuinely have a Nazi problem, see far-right Azov movement. Would you agree that is a problem? Or do you assert that is fake, and the movement never happened or something?

https://www.theleftchapter.com/post/total-militarization-the-azov-movement-is-colonizing-ukrainian-society-with-neo-nazi-war-ideology

Is "the left chapter" and hundreds of other sources all Russian propaganda? there is a ton of information online, all fake?

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    So then everyone has a nazi problem and russia should just be invading everyone...if you haven't picked up yet...there are a lot of right wing movements out there. Guess Russia should start bombing civilians in other countries then.

    Guess they should start in their own backyard though.

    https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    Why everyone?

    Wouldn't it be reasonable for Ukraine not to have Nazi military brigades? Is that a bridge too far for you, a Ukrainian?

    Isn't that an official arm of your government? Are they right wing nationalists or not? I've seen them wear SS badges on many occasions, is that AI or fake? You would know better than I.

    I agree, Russia should start in their own backyard, as should all nations. I am against all Nazis and far-right nationalists, in every country, and against armed invasion (like USA's Iran war and Russia's invasion).

    So... you still have a Nazi problem, and in your armed forces no less... do you agree? Or are they not a problem for you? Or are they fake news?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago*

    First I'm not Ukrainian. I have family there but I don't live there or claim that I am Ukrainian. Secondly having groups like that exists everywhere, it doesn't magically give a country a reason to invade and kill civilians. Or do you think that's ok because a group existed?

    The Azov regiment had a past, but that's no longer the case. It hasn't been that way for more than a decade now. In fact, they didn't even pull 2% of the votes. AfD pulls way more than that and has an actual voice in Germany, why isn't France marching into Germany and de-nazifying them?

    https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220325-azov-regiment-takes-centre-stage-in-ukraine-propaganda-war

    So I'll ask again, do you think that a country should be invaded and it's civilians targeted and killed because there are white supremacists/kkk/neonazis/racist/etc. In the military ranks?

    All countries have far right shit heels, it's not going to magically go away, and probably will never go away, but it doesn't give another country the right to invade and kill civilians.

    You're just repeating russian propaganda.

    PS...you tankies need to stick with .ml or something, jumping to other instances gets annoying having to tag you when you show up.

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