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Classic ungrateful Brenda (lemmy.world)
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[–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

I was not angry with my original reply, it could jot in anyway be reasonably taken as angry. I am however a bit frustrated now, in particular with your response to me. To quote what you said,

“Somehow this convo became about humans being hunters and what not. And not the original conversation about dishes and dragons.”

To also quote you’re first comment you said,

“Isn't this how we function evolutionarily? Like in a hunter and gatherers society, men were predominantly the ones required to do "one-hit" labour like hunting, whereas women were predominantly the ones doing "continual" labour like gathering food.”

You are the one who brought it up. Saying it “somehow” came up like you did is disingenuous and implies my argument is unrelated and can therefore be dismissed.

That is what is now making me a bit frustrated and why I felt it necessary to clear up the way you misconstrued things in your reply to me.

You are free to not respond if you do not want to. If you don’t want to continue I will respect that.

I also want to make sure that everyone reading this understands that them not replying or wanting to end the discussion should not be taken to mean anything one way or another.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    I feel bad for making you frustrated. It wasn't my intention. I think these text based format just makes things weird for us. You sound like someone I could have had a nice conversation on this topic without frustrations if we were discussing IRL.

    For what its worth, my original intent was to discuss different approaches to distribution of labour rather than talking about hunter gatherer society. I have weird way of talking where i can't help but justify my reasoning, so hunters gatherer was the justification for different physiology. And different physiology was the setup for the discussion on distribution of labour.

    What I found strange about myself is that I (and so many others including you) believe in equal distribution of labour in household despite having different physiology. But I support proportional distribution of labour when it comes broader society ie rich and priviledge should contribute more than poor and underpriviledged.

    And I kinda find this strange about myself (also generally) that we have different views when looking at society versus household.

    If i make a claim that we can't know actual capability between a couple therefore equal distribution of labour is fair then a similar argument can be made about rich vs poor.

    Anyways, I have a bad habit of making everything too political, this is a meme community so maybe i need to dial down that political side of me.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I think the heart of the difference between our views from what I’ve been able to understand from you is this. You view biological differences between men and women as having a sufficient enough reason to support gender roles if in the event the capability of a couple is known.

    I view the biological differences as something that should only be considered from a health perspective I.e. crash test dummy’s designed for men and ones designed for women to ensure proper safety testing.

    For me the biological differences shouldn’t be considered whether we know a couple’s capabilities or not. Humans are an extremely varied species with lots of overlap between women and men.

    There are women who are tall and muscular and men who are short and skinny. There are men who are tall and skinny and women who are short and muscular.

    Ultimately the biggest factor is lifestyle and not genetics. A female firefighter could absolutely out strength many males even if she’s short because she works out regularly.

    In short I don’t think biological differences are significant enough to be taken into actual consideration outside of specific circumstances like described above. While you as I understand it do believe them to be significant enough a factor to be given consideration if the differences between a couple are known.

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