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"Vote for me, you filthy poors!" 20th Century History (media.piefed.social)
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[–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I mean, what those two terms mean has shifted around a whole bunch over time. Same as the US two-party system.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    To a degree for sure. When it comes to general rural vs Urban there hasn’t really been the switch that the US had. And the broad strokes as to how those coalitions screw people because they focus on the monied interests of their respective constituents hasn’t changed. And that’s what played out here, where the tories ended up trying to adopt more progressive policies to support their rural base and got abandoned because of it. The liberals just never tried and absorbed that reactionary status quo in 35. It was pressure from the NDP that really forced the liberals to change their spots. Pierre Trudeau leaving the NDP for the liberals due to their inability to “win elections” says a lot more about the effectiveness of the election system at describing the will of the electorate than anything else.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Was it a switch in the US? I get the impression whole rural and urban areas tended to vote together more in the early 20th century, since it was more about race/ethnicity, religion and (in a way distinct from today) class.

    On this side of WWII the existence of strong third parties is a striking difference in Canada, for sure. I'm actually not sure how British Empire things were in the 30's, but if you go back any further that dimension appears as well.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    The Democrat-Republican party was agrarian and anti federal. After the federal party collapsed there was a split with the agrarian Democrats and the more federalist types joining the whigs which became the Republicans. Democrats stayed largely agrarian/extractive until Roosevelt and particularly Truman realigned them to support more metropol interests. The republicans meanwhile largely supported centralized authority which has always favored the metropol until that switch. Now there's no Rockefeller Republicans left. That's why the American midwest is Republican. The southern strategy and race is a very important key, but land density usage is something you will see is not American specific in how these power coalitions form.

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