FauxPseudo comments on Irritate a Trump defender with this one weird trick.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 6 months ago (7 children)

It's not necessary to convince them. It's enough to shake them. Trump posted his vision of himself as Jesus. Sub out the main character and some people will realize the thing they are defending is extremely problematic. The character substitution is their enemy.

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[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago (6 children)

S again, you think it was just the picture, not just who made it.

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 6 months ago (5 children)

When was the last time you saw a successful parody that did not mimic the style of the original thing being parodied? When you create a meme do you hand cut your letters like back in the '60s or do you use a computer a typeset library? How would you go about the process of making it in the same style as the thing that it is a parody of without using AI and would that be more or less resource intensive? Do you know how many gallons of water it takes to make and clean some paint brushes? What the carbon footprint of seven tubes of paint is?

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[–] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

Your now making the claim those are similar, so post your figures.

Because you really believe the carbon footprint of a tube of paint and its shipping is comparable to a gas turbine generator running 24/7, and the Google data centre using 2 million gallons per day.

Okay buddy.

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When was the last time tubes of paint Made someone's home electrical rates rise

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

But you know that it did not take 2 million gallons to make this. So the daily total is irrelevant.

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[+] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Seven tubes of paint shipped across the world.

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[+] wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

Your "gesture" was to use the entire water consumption for a whole day at a data center for one picture. I learned it from watching you.

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 6 months ago

This has gotten stupid. I agree with you overall. I'm against AI slop and the problems that come with it. But this is a direct response to an AI generated thing in the political news. The desired goal isn't possible without it looking like the original it is a parody of. I didn't make it. I found it, or more accurately, a friend sent it to me. It existed regardless of my actions.

I shared it because it would make any Trump defender instantly see why the original was a problem because of its subject matter even if they thought it was fine before.

I'm not going to argue any pro AI in gender stance. But I will point out a bad or lazy argument and your 2 million gallons a day thing was so disproportionate to the scale of this one piece that it deserved to be pinged out.

Hate AI, I'm probably with you on 99.99% of your stance. But don't argue with me using bad arguments. Don't blame me for it existing. Don't assume I think I'm a hero (that argument doesn't even make sense). This whole conversation is like the Narcissism of Small Differences brought to life and it's dull.

One image is less environmentally and socially impactful to energy and water resources than shipping seven tubes of paint and a canvas halfway around the world and you know it. To argue otherwise is disingenuous.

End this because it's wasting both our time. Go argue with someone who actually wants AI and uses it. Go find the person that put the prompt in to create this one. Go plant a tree. But find something productive to do because I already agree with you too much for you to make any progress with.