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I would watch that ngl (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 0 points 6 months ago (17 children)

Oh a parking ticket, like you get when you're parking illegally? https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kanumber=KA-01986

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    civil violation, should we jail people who parked illegally? rather than a fine? should you get deported if you park in the wrong place? Should parking violations be part of people's criminal history?

    imagine being unemployable due to a parking violation.

    civil violation ≠ crime, and doesn't make someone illegal

    someone cannot be illegal, they can do illegal stuff but you cannot be illegal.

    Existing isn't a crime.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    I never said anything about jail. Just that being undocumented is in fact illegal. The rest is just you projecting your morals onto a simple statement of fact.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (13 children)

    Yes, exactly like that. The act is illegal. Not the person. It's not even a felony for heavens sake.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (12 children)

    Right so you would agree that being undocumented is in fact illegal?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (11 children)

    Yes, breaking the law is illegal. Do you understand that doesn't make the person illegal or even a felon?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (10 children)

    I didn't say anything about a person being illegal or a felon. I said that being undocumented is illegal. Because it is.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (9 children)

    Yes and further up the person was talking about how no person is illegal. So why are you even arguing?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (8 children)

    I'm not arguing with that statement I was arguing that being undocumented is in fact illegal. As in its against the law. Regardless of how you feel about it.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (7 children)

    And I will argue that is some very dubious context given how people are being treated. Like people are disappearing and you're out here arguing they did a crime. Great job. Many of them aren't even undocumented.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (6 children)

    Undocumented or illegal immigrants committed a crime. You may think that it shouldn't be a crime, but at the moment it is a crime.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (5 children)

    I think it's rather beside the point when talking about human rights. Why do you think it is relevant to repeat ad nausea in the context of human rights?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

    The only point I was trying to make is beside the point? You can believe whatever you want about immigrantion and how it should work. That doesn't magically make illegal immigration legal. Law is distinct from morality.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

    That's like me saying what the Nazis did was legal when someone brings up the holocaust. Like what is your point in making this distinction? To show us you understand definitions? Good for you I guess... 🙄

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    I think the Nazis would have euthanized you as a child for being so fucking stupid. Do you really not think that the Nazis legalizing all of their atrocities is incredibly important to keep in mind giving whats been happening lately?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child)

    I don't think it's important, just like the legality of "illegal humans" is not important to how people are being mistreated. You're the one bringing up legality in this context.

    But please continue to insult me. In the states we have a saying: a hit dog will hollar - behind your anger is a fear and behind that fear is something you love. If you keep it up there will be enough pieces to figure out what is motivating you

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Holy shit. Please continue to highlight the failings of the United States educational system. Or lack thereof. I corrected someone who said that being undocumented isn't illegal and then a bunch of room temperature dumbasses are trying to pile on about the morality of the whole situation.

    I'll spell it out for you using small words because you seem to be a special kind of idiot. Fascists legalize their own bad behavior and hide behind the bastardized legal system to deflect any blame for their actions. Morals and laws only occasionally overlap.

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