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[–] 202 points 7 months ago (21 children)

"Effective immediately, the ​United States Navy, the Finest in ​the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING ‌any ⁠and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz," said Trump, who is strongly opposed to the ​idea of ​Iran charging ⁠ships a toll to pass through the strait.

"I have also ​instructed our Navy to seek and ​interdict ⁠every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran. No one ⁠who ​pays an illegal toll ​will have safe passage on the high seas," he ​said.

Pretty sure what Trump is opposed to is him not getting a cut of the toll.

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  • [–] 43 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    This is truly an April Fools-level move.

    The US is closing the Strait? The generals couldn't open it, so Hegseth said, 'Okay! I've got it! We declare that WE'RE closing it, NOT THEM!'

    How ... is this better?

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Iran was allowing some ships through. The logic is that if it’s closed to the US it must be closed to everyone (it was not before).

    Do I think this is a good move? No. Do I think Trump and Hegseth have three brain cells between them? No.

    But it also isn’t hard to understand their angle here. It’s not better for anyone. But the idea is to make it worse for Iran than the previous phase, where they had control of the strait.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Gonna be a hard sell to the rest of the world who is largely able to negotiate passage with Iran. US navy is gonna hijack ships enroute from the strait to China?

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I agree. A US blockade of Hormuz was actually always a reserve strategy to put a chokehold on China if they invade Taiwan. Now we’re just playing that card for no fucking reason at all. This administration is dumb as fuck and I can’t believe there isn’t even anyone in the military who can stop them. I guess that’s what we see with Hegseth’s long line of dismissals.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago

    No one ⁠who ​pays an illegal toll ​will have safe passage on the high seas

    Does that mean they are gonna attack anyone that paid? Also when he starts charging does that mean they will destroy any ships right after they pay?

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    One of his many word salads involved an offer to split the tolls between us and Iran, so yeah, that’s what he wants. The dummy simply didn’t realize access to the strait was so valuable until after the bombs started dropping.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Illegal toll? Who's laws govern the strait that make these tolls illegal?

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Lot's of people avoid using the word retard. But that's hard on some people because the loss of that word can decimate their whole vocabulary.

    I support your freedom of expression; language is hard, and some people need verbal prognostics to make their point. It's rude to pick on people just because of a diminished capacity.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

    By calling out the decline of Trumps cognitive abilities, I offended subset of people who should in my view never ever be called a "retard"?

    I do apologise to anyone who still wants to identify as one.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    It’s just not necessary to use slurs. That’s all.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    i'm torn. we shame them away from using this one, they'll just move onto the next. it's not the meaning behind the word that they like, it's the fact that it's a slur. hence the euphemism treadmill.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    That still doesn’t mean that we need to use it.

    Also, we absolutely should shame these people. Let them move onto the next one. We will shame them for that too. Bigots don’t get to have things.

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