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[–] 5 points 7 months ago (16 children)

Oh no, people say swearwords in films? I can't tolerate that, definitely wouldn't want characters in films to speak like people in real life.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago (15 children)

    Have you seen the movie? It's completely unnecessary and excessive. It adds nothing to the movie.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Have you seen the movie? It's completely unnecessary and excessive. It adds nothing to the movie.

    The whole movie is about being unnecessary and excessive..? That's pretty literally the title;

    In Finnish the title is translated as "stories from/about violence" (tarinoita väkivallasta)

    Also, it was the 90's.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (11 children)

    Perhaps you'd also want to watch this scene and tell me why the things McNulty and Moreland saying are in any way necessary and how the scene is then so popular. Btw, the series is also packed with the 'n-word', particularly in the first season. How come the depiction of valiant police force doesn't use 'black fella' or something instead?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (10 children)

    What?

    First of all, I love the Wire and I don't even need to click the link to know what scene you're referring to.

    I'm actually not convinced that you've seen Pulp Fiction if you're comparing Tarantino unnecessarily saying the N word multiple times to one of the best scenes in television history.

    In fact, I remember one of the quotes from Tarantino from when Vincent and Sam Jackson's character (forget his name off the top of my head) pull up to Tarantino's character's house after accidentally shooting Martin in the head in the backseat of the car.

    Tarantino's completely necessary joke, the one you're comparing to a scene from The Wire is,

    Is there a sign on my law that says dead n****r storage?

    Wow, so funny and necessary.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (9 children)

    Yeah, got it, when the word is said in ‘The Wire’, it's necessary, when it's in Tarantino's film, it's unnecessary. Great criterion.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (8 children)

    Have you seen Pulp Fiction in the last decade?

    Context matters. Who says it matters. What it adds (or doesn't add) to the dialogue matters.

    Comparing tarratino writing himself in to his own movie to say the n word in a couple forced "jokes," to The Wire is definitely one of the takes off all time

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (7 children)

    Explain to me why incessant usage of the ‘n-word’ is necessary in ‘The Wire’.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

    First of all, I have never found it's use in The Wire to be excessive. I can't even remember a specific example. Incessant? Lol no. I just rewatched the show last year. They 100% don't "incessantly use the n-word" in The Wire.

    Stop being obtuse. Black people in Baltimore in the 90s said the word to each other. So if you're writing a realistic, gritty show, it might include that word.

    Not used by white people in throwaway jokes that are supposed to make them seem funny and relatable.

    Quentin Tarantino has no reason to say it other than "it was in the script."

    And who wrote that script? Hmmm.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (5 children)

    Are you being deliberately dumb? The 'n-word' is said all the time in the first season of 'The Wire' by the policemen regardless of their skin color, so either present your analysis on how it's necessary in the show for police force of all skin colors and ethnicities to be casually racist, or fuck off. I don't have a craving for arguing with a person who's either stupid or purposely pretends to be so.

    if you’re writing a realistic, gritty show, it might include that word.

    Or so a show set in Baltimore can be casually racist, but there's no chance there were ever racist people in Los Angeles, where 'Pulp Fiction' is set, oh no. Only Baltimoreans are entitled to be racist and can be depicted in media as such, not a film from the West Coast, fuck that.

    You seem to be a living embodiment of the 'double standard' concept.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

    Almost as if a gritty, realistic crime TV show is trying to be gritty and realistic.

    If that's that Pulp Fiction was trying to do, all it would be telling us is that QT is a racist irl who uses the word all of the time. Cool.

    Honestly, please answer this time: have you ever seen Pulp Fiction? If so, has it been in the last decade?

    Because I feel like the difference between the two is just plainly obvious to anyone who has seen both. I find it hard to believe that your think it's the same as The Wire lol

    If you think The Wire is casually racist, I'm convinced you've never actually watched it. I mean Jesus Christ

    Edit: also, to be clear, QT was not being "casually racist" in Pulp Fiction. There was nothing casual about how he threw the word around.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

    Oh thank you, your double standards are now plain and glaring more than ever. Thank you for showing your ass to the entire world and saying that 'The Wire' can be racist while Tarantino's characters can't, I could barely have asked for more than that. Your unsubstantiated hate for Tarantino is now clearer than sunshine.

    Yes you hypocritical jackass, I've watched 'Pulp Fiction' a few years ago. Feel free to invent some new reason why my opinion is invalid.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    It's almost as if it matters who said it and what the context/intention was. Wild.

    The Wire is telling a story about systemic racism and a broken political system. It was trying to be true to life. The reason I don't remember any individual instances of anyone saying the word (it absolutely was not used excessively, that's absurd. I'm not sure it is ever even said by a white person), is because it wasn't shoe-horned in for shock value.

    Pulp Fiction did not need QT to be a character at all. It did not need QT's character to make bad jokes using the n word with a 'hard r' at all.

    He wrote the movie. He wrote himself into it. He wrote himself saying the n word several times for no reason other than shock value. This isn't even close to the same thing as The Wire. I honestly can't even believe that I'm having this discussion.

    I'm actually kind of concerned for you that you can't see this. Why are you so intent on defending blantantly racist bullshit? It's weird, dude.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    I don't remember any individual instances of anyone saying the word (it absolutely was not used excessively, that's absurd. I'm not sure it is ever even said by a white person)

    Oh, so you just lying outright is somehow a defence for ‘The Wire’, great. Fifty uses of the ‘n-word’ per episode are definitely not excessive in your view, as opposed to the one time in ‘Pulp Fiction’. Are you deliberately aiming for the title of the preeminent hypocrite here, or what? Please just shut the fuck up with your blatant asslicking for the racists in ‘The Wire’ and your obvious and unashamed hatred for Tarantino. It's just embarrassing at this point.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Indeed, unlike all the swearing people do all day every day, which is crucial to their life.

    Tarantino should pare down the speech of his characters to the level of Disney, then it will be entirely appropriate to the plot and completely realistic.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago*

    Have you seen the movie? Do you know what quotes you're actually defending, and what the context was?

    Do I have a sign on my lawn that says 'dead n****r storage'?!

    Wow, so funny and absolutely necessary. And it had to be delivered by a white person. Had to.

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