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Currently, we have two different developer chats on Zulip and Matrix. This means, that new devs will be confused about which channel to join and experienced devs have to actively look around in both channels for questions to answer. This seems like a really inefficient system, so we should at least decide on one official communication channel.

More discussion at https://piefed.social/c/piefed_meta/p/1964543/we-should-rethink-how-the-communitcation-channels-for-piefed-devs-work

Personally I find Matrix to be a pain in the ass and prefer Zulip. But it hasn't managed to attract as many users as Matrix has despite pushing it quite hard for months. Also PieFed development has started to bleed over into PieFed naturally, such as !piefed_css@piefed.social and !piefed_plugins@piefed.social. So we're in an awkward place at the moment.

31% A PieFed community, only
3% chat.piefed.social - Zulip
10% Matrix channel
18% PieFed + Zulip
21% PieFed + Matrix
13% PieFed + Zulip + Matrix
3% Zulip + Matrix (what we have now)
3% Zulip
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[–] [S] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

We gave it a good try. I love it but we need to meet people where they are.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    It's still quite active and a better place to follow development discussions compared to Matrix.

    If anything, I would rather close the Matrix to encourage people to join the Zulip.

    Zulip can be used as a tab in the browser, the cost to join is quite low.

    Also, from a purely philosophical perspective, keeping Matrix instead of Zulip just because there are more people on Matrix over Zulip seems antithetical to Piefed itself: following that logic, we should just use Lemmy as there are more people there and it's the established platform.

    On the other hand, most of the people involved on Piefed probably think that Piefed is a better software than Lemmy, and that Lemmy users should switch to it. By that logic, using Zulip rather than Matrix makes sense.

    Last point: if we wanted to meet people where most of them are, we should open a subreddit and a Discord. Codeberg isn't federated, that doesn't seem to be an issue to use it for Fediverse project.

    I hope this comment doesn't come up as too critical, it's just that I was traveling for a few days and it's a bit surprising to see such an important change decided over 48 hours.

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