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Which platform(s) should we use for discussing PieFed development? Question poll (piefed.social)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/piefed_meta@piefed.social
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Please only vote if you have contributed to PieFed in some capacity (e.g. coding, translation, reporting bugs, discussing bugs) or might in the near future!

Currently, we have two different developer chats on Zulip and Matrix. This means, that new devs will be confused about which channel to join and experienced devs have to actively look around in both channels for questions to answer. This seems like a really inefficient system, so we should at least decide on one official communication channel.

More discussion at https://piefed.social/c/piefed_meta/p/1964543/we-should-rethink-how-the-communitcation-channels-for-piefed-devs-work

Personally I find Matrix to be a pain in the ass and prefer Zulip. But it hasn't managed to attract as many users as Matrix has despite pushing it quite hard for months. Also PieFed development has started to bleed over into PieFed naturally, such as !piefed_css@piefed.social and !piefed_plugins@piefed.social. So we're in an awkward place at the moment.

31% A PieFed community, only
3% chat.piefed.social - Zulip
10% Matrix channel
18% PieFed + Zulip
21% PieFed + Matrix
13% PieFed + Zulip + Matrix
3% Zulip + Matrix (what we have now)
3% Zulip
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[–] [S] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (11 children)

I'm going to call an end to this poll at this point because 35 responses seems like plenty.

Here are the results:

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It is surprising and gratifying how many people would be fine to just go all-in on PieFed. Bold.

I think it's fair to say that Zulip is not very popular as every scenario with Zulip in it did poorly. At the same time every scenario with Matrix in it did Ok.

These results suggest we should move the discussions formally held on Zulip over to a PieFed community and keep Matrix as-is.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    I think it’s fair to say that Zulip is not very popular as every scenario with Zulip in it did poorly. At the same time every scenario with Matrix in it did Ok.

    Isn't Piefed + Zulip 20% when Piefed + Matrix is 22%?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    It's open to interpretation, a bit.

    There is clearly strong support for using PieFed. Matrix is only ahead of Zulip by 1 vote or so, which isn't a strong mandate either way.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    So will Zulip stay open?

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 6 months ago*

    I don't plan to close it entirely, in the short term. At most, I'd close the developer channel within Zulip.

    I'm not trying to force a change on people, they need to do it themselves. I've tilted the playing field towards !piefed_dev@piefed.social but ultimately if no one uses it then I'm not going to remove their other options until the Piefed community is the only venue.

    In the meantime we're in an awkward situation where things are even more spread out than before!

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (5 children)

    This sounds sensible to me.

    I've been kind of hoping for pretty much precisely this, already.
    At least I am using Zulip only for chatting about PieFed, and that means I am not really using it as much as a chat as a kind of a web forum. In the way I use Zulip, it is basically a clone of PieFed.

    The only feature PieFed is missing is refreshing the screen when new comments appear. But that's a feature that doesn't have to stay missing forever!

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    There's a new comment filter

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    But even that is visible only if I press ^R, right?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not sure what you mean with pressing ^R, the Piefed filter is just "Active"

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