dkppunk comments on why is this still an issue?

[–] dkppunk@piefed.social 4 points 7 months ago* (8 children)

lol man, I’m not talking about nice trousers, or dressy pants, or skin tight anything. I don’t want big pockets in my form fitting clothes. I don’t wear skin tight clothes all of the time. That picture are 2 pairs of non-tight bootcut jeans.

I’m talking about basic, everyday, denim jeans that have that tiny useless pocket. Even wide leg jeans have that tiny useless pocket. The pockets in these jeans can’t even fit my driver’s license or credit card in them without worrying they will fall out. I don’t want to fit everything that’s in my purse in those pockets. I want to fit my ID, credit card, a bit of cash, and my pocket knife. I want to be able to grab those few things and run into the grocery store or bookstore without always lugging my purse around. That’s it.

I’m a flare and bootcut jeans kind of gal. I want functional pockets in every day normal denim jeans. I want functional pockets in clothes that make sense.

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[–] FishFace@piefed.social -1 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Bootcut men's jeans:

Bootcut women's jeans:

I mean sure, you may mean you prefer looser jeans even than those pictured, but do you see how much tighter the woman's are than the man's? That's the current fashion. Even if you actually wear looser ones, the fact that the fashion is for tighter jeans means you might not be wearing the size the designer envisaged, and in any case, the designer imagines that the majority of people buying those jeans also own tight clothing, hence a purse, hence there's no point putting in a functional pocket.

Yes, it's annoying when fashion doesn't cater to you, but it's still important to recognise that as what's going on.

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[–] dkppunk@piefed.social 4 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I’m so glad you used pictures of models that have been air brushed for fashion magazines to prove that women are wrong to complain about pockets.

Here’s a real pair of jeans on a real human being. Jeans that I recently purchased at a popular fashion store.

See those pockets? These aren’t even the ones I posted above, these pockets are twice as deep as those and I still barely fit all of my fingers. I cannot safely place my credit card and ID in those pockets without a big risk of losing them. That is why women are pissed about pockets.

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[–] FishFace@piefed.social -1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

You are right that they are loose-fitting enough on to have functional pockets, but I think there's some more of my comment that still applies. How many women do you think are buying jeans that fit that loosely? A quick dredge through some photos (whether models or selfies) makes me pretty confident it's a minority.

Your perspective seems to be that there is no reason not to make the pockets bigger, but there is, it's just a reason that affects people other than you.

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[–] dkppunk@piefed.social 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Your perspective seems to be that there is no reason not to make the pockets bigger, but there is, it's just a reason that affects people other than you

No, my perspective is that the many non form fitting jeans that have space have no reason to have tiny useless pockets. Wide leg jeans have no reason to not have pockets. Any jeans that are not tight in the thighs have no good reason to not have bigger pockets.

Edit: as I’ve stated in another comment

So you’re a pedantic ass. Got it.

I’m going to play in my garden. You should go read a book, maybe start with the one I posted above.

Have a day

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[–] FishFace@piefed.social -1 points 7 months ago (1 child)

So, I got it right, with the caveat that you're not talking about all jeans?

But jeans that are not tight on your thighs may be tight on someone else's. The bigger pockets on those jeans that benefit you will look worse on that person. Bigger pockets add a (small) cost - which is fine if it offers something of value. But to the many women who carry a bag by default, bigger pockets do not add value, only a cost, so you are also asking those to bear the cost.

So those are the two reasons.

Framing the complaint as, "I'm annoyed that jeans designed for women have useless pockets" leaves the space open for those reasons, those other people whose annoyance might also matter. The complaint in the original post, continued by you and others, would erase them.