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[–] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

A ceasefire were you don't achieve any goals, and the opposing side gets major concessions is a defeat.

The Iranian regime survived. The nuclear programme survived. Iran now has the right to charge tolls on an international strait. The US is negotiating an withdrawal from the Middle East. Iran will get rid of the sanctions. And in they will get reparations as a cherry on top.

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