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[–] 27 points 1 year ago (33 children)

Does any GNOME user here use X11? On my computer I have been exclusively using Wayland for 3 years. It's great.

Slightly concerned about remote desktopping though. What do I replace xrdp with?

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I have RSI, and I use talon voice to control my computer.

    Because Wayland doesn't, and probably won't support accessibility software like talon voice, in time, as x11 is shut down, I'll have to move to Mac or Windows. I'm devastated.

    Talon voice is what allows me to continue working.

    I'm literally going to have to move back to the dark side in time, due to the end of X11, and Wayland's lack of support for accessibility.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sorry to hear this; why are so many voice-control tools for Linux so dependent on X11? Is there any glimmer of hope that an alternate Wayland-compatible tool is going to come along in the next few years?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Use Talon with Cinnamon and Linux Mint, which still uses X11.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'll do what I can. However, x11 will definitely die in the upcoming years. Development is apparently only maintenance now and basic improvements. The writing is on the wall, as Wayland just doesn't support what the accessibility tools require.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is the one gigantic, glaring problem with Wayland. “The most secure software is the software you can’t use” is not a philosophy I support. Accessibility should always be a first class citizen for mission critical components like window managers.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I do due to an annoying bug that only pops up when using Wayland, forces me to relogin and thus lose my current session.

    Haven't tested for a while though, maybe it's fixed already.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Keep coming back to Wayland. I've been using Linux as my main desktop OS since 2022, and at first, I encountered many issues with Wayland (KDE). However, I kept coming back and testing Wayland as the bugs were fixed. Now, Wayland is great! It feels like a true modern operating system — much better than Windows.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    KDE user here, I still use X11 to play old Minecraft versions. LWJGL2 uses xrandr to read (and sometimes modify? wtf) display configurations on Linux, and the last few times I've tried it on Wayland it kept screwing the whole desktop up.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Slightly concerned about remote desktopping though. What do I replace xrdp with?

    Xrdp works on Wayland, you can keep using it if you like. There's also Gnome's built-in Gnome Remote Desktop as well as KDE's Krdp, both are also Wayland compatible (though I get the feeling Krdp is still in its early stages).

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Yeah because they dropped the vnc sever for the Wayland session and our workflow at work still uses vnc

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    The only thing I want from x11 is a proper wayland autoclicker with working global bindings,Yes I can use xclicker but no global bindings.

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