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[+] pennomi@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (8 children) So . . . What do atheists claim? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago (3 children) That's agnosticism not atheism. The definition of atheism is literally in the word a-theism, the opposite of theism. A theist believes there's at least one deity, an atheist believes the opposite, that there are no deities. An agnostic, in a sense, believes nothing. There's no proof God exists, there's no proof God doesn't exist so an agnostic makes no claims about God. By rejecting the the possibility of a God you're making a claim and without proof that claim becomes faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Also it’s absolutely ridiculous to say that rejecting a claim is the same as making a claim. This doesn’t hold up to even the most basic of philosophical rigor. You are claiming that rejecting a claim needs no proof to be true. Alright, I'll reject your claim. What now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago So all non verbal intelligence is atheist. Hm. Well that’ll certainly pump up those numbers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rescue_toaster@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) Most atheists are agnostic atheists that do not accept the proposition that a god or gods exist. They make no claims. Theist: There is a god. (claim) Atheist : I'm not convinced. (Rejection of the claim) Because society is so heavily influenced by god belief, there exists a term for those that reject the god claim. Most do not believe bigfoot exists, but there's no special "abigfootist" word for the same exact position about not believing in a god. And people don't go yelling at "abigfootists" to prove bigfoot does not exist. There are some atheists that claim there is no god, and that would absolutely require evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago I thought they were different, i.e. atheist: One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being. And agnostic: One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (8 children) So . . . What do atheists claim? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago (3 children) That's agnosticism not atheism. The definition of atheism is literally in the word a-theism, the opposite of theism. A theist believes there's at least one deity, an atheist believes the opposite, that there are no deities. An agnostic, in a sense, believes nothing. There's no proof God exists, there's no proof God doesn't exist so an agnostic makes no claims about God. By rejecting the the possibility of a God you're making a claim and without proof that claim becomes faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Also it’s absolutely ridiculous to say that rejecting a claim is the same as making a claim. This doesn’t hold up to even the most basic of philosophical rigor. You are claiming that rejecting a claim needs no proof to be true. Alright, I'll reject your claim. What now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago So all non verbal intelligence is atheist. Hm. Well that’ll certainly pump up those numbers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rescue_toaster@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) Most atheists are agnostic atheists that do not accept the proposition that a god or gods exist. They make no claims. Theist: There is a god. (claim) Atheist : I'm not convinced. (Rejection of the claim) Because society is so heavily influenced by god belief, there exists a term for those that reject the god claim. Most do not believe bigfoot exists, but there's no special "abigfootist" word for the same exact position about not believing in a god. And people don't go yelling at "abigfootists" to prove bigfoot does not exist. There are some atheists that claim there is no god, and that would absolutely require evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago I thought they were different, i.e. atheist: One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being. And agnostic: One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] pennomi@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago (3 children) That's agnosticism not atheism. The definition of atheism is literally in the word a-theism, the opposite of theism. A theist believes there's at least one deity, an atheist believes the opposite, that there are no deities. An agnostic, in a sense, believes nothing. There's no proof God exists, there's no proof God doesn't exist so an agnostic makes no claims about God. By rejecting the the possibility of a God you're making a claim and without proof that claim becomes faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Also it’s absolutely ridiculous to say that rejecting a claim is the same as making a claim. This doesn’t hold up to even the most basic of philosophical rigor. You are claiming that rejecting a claim needs no proof to be true. Alright, I'll reject your claim. What now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago So all non verbal intelligence is atheist. Hm. Well that’ll certainly pump up those numbers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago (3 children) That's agnosticism not atheism. The definition of atheism is literally in the word a-theism, the opposite of theism. A theist believes there's at least one deity, an atheist believes the opposite, that there are no deities. An agnostic, in a sense, believes nothing. There's no proof God exists, there's no proof God doesn't exist so an agnostic makes no claims about God. By rejecting the the possibility of a God you're making a claim and without proof that claim becomes faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Also it’s absolutely ridiculous to say that rejecting a claim is the same as making a claim. This doesn’t hold up to even the most basic of philosophical rigor. You are claiming that rejecting a claim needs no proof to be true. Alright, I'll reject your claim. What now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[+] pennomi@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Also it’s absolutely ridiculous to say that rejecting a claim is the same as making a claim. This doesn’t hold up to even the most basic of philosophical rigor. You are claiming that rejecting a claim needs no proof to be true. Alright, I'll reject your claim. What now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Also it’s absolutely ridiculous to say that rejecting a claim is the same as making a claim. This doesn’t hold up to even the most basic of philosophical rigor. You are claiming that rejecting a claim needs no proof to be true. Alright, I'll reject your claim. What now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago So all non verbal intelligence is atheist. Hm. Well that’ll certainly pump up those numbers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rescue_toaster@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) Most atheists are agnostic atheists that do not accept the proposition that a god or gods exist. They make no claims. Theist: There is a god. (claim) Atheist : I'm not convinced. (Rejection of the claim) Because society is so heavily influenced by god belief, there exists a term for those that reject the god claim. Most do not believe bigfoot exists, but there's no special "abigfootist" word for the same exact position about not believing in a god. And people don't go yelling at "abigfootists" to prove bigfoot does not exist. There are some atheists that claim there is no god, and that would absolutely require evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago I thought they were different, i.e. atheist: One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being. And agnostic: One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago I thought they were different, i.e. atheist: One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being. And agnostic: One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism. permalink fedilink source parent
