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Iran destroys five US refueling aircraft. (www.vietnam.vn)
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[–] 9 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Eh. I can oppose both Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the US/Israel war on Iran. It's not about which team you're on. It's about backing the country being invaded and attacked.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Many people can, but apparently politicians and their media mouthpieces dogmatically defend their US masters.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    They never cared about international law or right and wrong. It was always just a tool to bludgeon the other team with, and now that the tool is turning against them they're dropping it like a broken toy.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Many people still believed their BS about 'the rules based order'.
    I know it's a lie but still was shocked to hear some EU 'leaders' blatantly say international law doesn't apply to Iran.
    After condoning the genocide in Gaza they now defend the illegal war and mass murder of children in Iran.
    How can these loathsome turds look in the mirror.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    It was easier to pretend before because they would condemn the US publicly but if you paid attention to what they were doing they were also there committing war crimes together. It sucks but it's the truth, Europe only cared about this rhetoric as a means to an end, it gives a facade of being the grown up, but now that the US got a less subtle leader it's impossible for them to keep plausible deniability and be loyal at the same time.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    That is accurate.
    People since forever have fallen for the rhetoric of politicians.
    If you separate the words from the actions and facts you get a different story.
    Even I, with my ample mistrust and scepticism almost fell for this 'rift' or whatever they call it between the US/EU.
    One of Trump's unreasonable demands was for the EU to pay vastly more for 'defense'.
    Which is basically supporting US merchants of death and only used in support of their imperialism when they need it.
    Before, everyone barely and grudgingly coughed up their 2%.
    And what happened then?
    Some arguing and theater about the US not going to 'help' us anymore and our leaders deciding we should have our own defense.
    The result is exactly what Trump wanted.
    Well played.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I think a lot of Europeans genuinely believe in human rights and a rules-based world order. And it would serve their interests too (in a multipolar world, having rules that apply to all is favorable to all). But they're also cowards and want the USA to be world police and uphold this order, and it has always been convenient to look the other way as long as it was brown people on the receiving end of the Empire's violence.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I think a lot of Europeans genuinely believe in human rights and a rules-based world order.

    Most people in the world have that view.

    But you are mistaking the people for our EU vassal sell-out leaders here:

    But they’re also cowards and want the USA to be world police

    Our population is vastly against most of the US wars.
    We know we're going to pay for it, first literally and later when we get 100000's of refugees they caused.

    Our 'leaders' go along because it keeps the system in place of getting the crumbs from the US loot.
    They don't care about the people and consequences for them.
    If they refuse, as in Iran's case, it is indeed out of cowardice and the negative consequences for themselves economically.

    Our economies are already in a huge crisis because of the sanctions on Russia, we suffer and the US profits from selling us expensive fracking gas.

    They can not take more problems by joining this war.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I can oppose both Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the US/Israel war on Iran.

    Two enormous armies in a proxy war on foreign soil is nightmarish for the people forced to endure. All so that the Pentagon and the Russian MOD can have a dick swinging contest without touching tips.

    But there's this insane Westoid reasoning that says Total War is fine when we do it. It only becomes a crime when anyone else cribs from our notebooks.

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