▲ 158 ▼ Linux kernel czar says AI bug reports aren't slop anymore (www.theregister.com) submitted 7 months ago by General_Effort@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 99 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] XLE@piefed.social -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children) (Edit: Invalid comparison and misdirection.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (5 children) Sure if you only focus on the desktop market I guess you could make that argument, but IDK why you would ignore servers and phones? There are plenty of examples of Linux kicking Microsoft's ass. You think Microsoft is happy they don't sell server licenses for every server on earth? What about android? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social -3 points 7 months ago* (4 children) What about Android...? Sure, what about Google? Do you actually have a reason Linux will be able to pull off using AI when Microsoft cannot, or is your sole argument that Linux has done other things? Because that's not how proof works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children) My argument is they are different groups of people with completely different incentive structures, so of course they will be different. You're acting like Microsoft is failing because they use AI, not because they have management forcing the use of AI. I'm definitely not an "AI is going to write all the code" kind of person, but LLMs are definitely a useful tool for prototyping and other development processes. A project with a "No AI" rule is not inherently better than a project that uses AI as a tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 7 months ago (2 children) If your claim is baseless, don't fight to make it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Ok, let's flip this around. You made the baseless claim that "Linux development can't succeed where Microsoft fails" that seems pretty baseless and historically incorrect to me. But if you just want to keep trying to "win" this interaction and don't want to have a conversation I guess there's nothing left to say permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) No, I asked why anyone would assume Linux developers would get anywhere with AI, looking for anybody with a legitimate reason and not baseless speculation. (Attempted burden of proof shift.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (5 children) Sure if you only focus on the desktop market I guess you could make that argument, but IDK why you would ignore servers and phones? There are plenty of examples of Linux kicking Microsoft's ass. You think Microsoft is happy they don't sell server licenses for every server on earth? What about android? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social -3 points 7 months ago* (4 children) What about Android...? Sure, what about Google? Do you actually have a reason Linux will be able to pull off using AI when Microsoft cannot, or is your sole argument that Linux has done other things? Because that's not how proof works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children) My argument is they are different groups of people with completely different incentive structures, so of course they will be different. You're acting like Microsoft is failing because they use AI, not because they have management forcing the use of AI. I'm definitely not an "AI is going to write all the code" kind of person, but LLMs are definitely a useful tool for prototyping and other development processes. A project with a "No AI" rule is not inherently better than a project that uses AI as a tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 7 months ago (2 children) If your claim is baseless, don't fight to make it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Ok, let's flip this around. You made the baseless claim that "Linux development can't succeed where Microsoft fails" that seems pretty baseless and historically incorrect to me. But if you just want to keep trying to "win" this interaction and don't want to have a conversation I guess there's nothing left to say permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) No, I asked why anyone would assume Linux developers would get anywhere with AI, looking for anybody with a legitimate reason and not baseless speculation. (Attempted burden of proof shift.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social -3 points 7 months ago* (4 children) What about Android...? Sure, what about Google? Do you actually have a reason Linux will be able to pull off using AI when Microsoft cannot, or is your sole argument that Linux has done other things? Because that's not how proof works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children) My argument is they are different groups of people with completely different incentive structures, so of course they will be different. You're acting like Microsoft is failing because they use AI, not because they have management forcing the use of AI. I'm definitely not an "AI is going to write all the code" kind of person, but LLMs are definitely a useful tool for prototyping and other development processes. A project with a "No AI" rule is not inherently better than a project that uses AI as a tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 7 months ago (2 children) If your claim is baseless, don't fight to make it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Ok, let's flip this around. You made the baseless claim that "Linux development can't succeed where Microsoft fails" that seems pretty baseless and historically incorrect to me. But if you just want to keep trying to "win" this interaction and don't want to have a conversation I guess there's nothing left to say permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) No, I asked why anyone would assume Linux developers would get anywhere with AI, looking for anybody with a legitimate reason and not baseless speculation. (Attempted burden of proof shift.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children) My argument is they are different groups of people with completely different incentive structures, so of course they will be different. You're acting like Microsoft is failing because they use AI, not because they have management forcing the use of AI. I'm definitely not an "AI is going to write all the code" kind of person, but LLMs are definitely a useful tool for prototyping and other development processes. A project with a "No AI" rule is not inherently better than a project that uses AI as a tool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 7 months ago (2 children) If your claim is baseless, don't fight to make it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Ok, let's flip this around. You made the baseless claim that "Linux development can't succeed where Microsoft fails" that seems pretty baseless and historically incorrect to me. But if you just want to keep trying to "win" this interaction and don't want to have a conversation I guess there's nothing left to say permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) No, I asked why anyone would assume Linux developers would get anywhere with AI, looking for anybody with a legitimate reason and not baseless speculation. (Attempted burden of proof shift.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 7 months ago (2 children) If your claim is baseless, don't fight to make it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Ok, let's flip this around. You made the baseless claim that "Linux development can't succeed where Microsoft fails" that seems pretty baseless and historically incorrect to me. But if you just want to keep trying to "win" this interaction and don't want to have a conversation I guess there's nothing left to say permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) No, I asked why anyone would assume Linux developers would get anywhere with AI, looking for anybody with a legitimate reason and not baseless speculation. (Attempted burden of proof shift.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Ok, let's flip this around. You made the baseless claim that "Linux development can't succeed where Microsoft fails" that seems pretty baseless and historically incorrect to me. But if you just want to keep trying to "win" this interaction and don't want to have a conversation I guess there's nothing left to say permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) No, I asked why anyone would assume Linux developers would get anywhere with AI, looking for anybody with a legitimate reason and not baseless speculation. (Attempted burden of proof shift.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) No, I asked why anyone would assume Linux developers would get anywhere with AI, looking for anybody with a legitimate reason and not baseless speculation. (Attempted burden of proof shift.) permalink fedilink source parent