Queensland e-bike laws: New bill proposes 10km/h speed limit in push to get cyclists, scooters off footpaths and onto roads (www.brisbanetimes.com.au)

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[–] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 20 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Sounds like this proposed legislation has been written by the automotive and fossil fuel industry lobby groups.

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[–] ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (9 children)

I disagree, those groups hate having to share the road with push cyclists, let alone scooters and ebikes

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[–] Zagorath [S] 15 points 7 months ago (8 children)

The actual effect of this bill is entirely to get people off of bikes and back in cars. It serves no valid purpose other than that.

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[–] ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world -5 points 7 months ago (7 children)

But the petrol lobbys don't want this, they want less cars so it's easier to drive and park?

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[–] Zagorath [S] 9 points 7 months ago (6 children)

What is this nonsense? The petrol lobby wants as many cars as they can get.

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[–] ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (5 children)

What petrol lobby? We have like 1 or 2 at the federal level, but I'm unaware of any operating in qld?

They aren't the most influential here cos we don't have a petrol industry.

Leaving mostly automotive lobby groups, which there are a few and these do operate in qld. But the aren't advocating for 'get more cars on the road'

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Your last comment said "petrol lobbys don't want this, they want less cars". Your latest comment says "what petrol lobby?" Which is it? You're changing your argument. It feels like a very blatant example of motivated reasoning at best, or deliberate shifting of the goalposts at worst.

If you're going to post conservative anti-bike talking points, at least get your story internally straight first!

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[–] ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yes it was a poor choice of words on my part, I was going off what you said, and yes I assumed that by petrol lobbys that you were talking automotive lobby groups, which all my points relate to.. I assumed this because as I said there aren't petrol lobby groups in qld, or at least none that I know of.

When you doubled down I carrified the difference.

Do you care to clarrify which petrol lobby groups are influencing this legislation? Or does my point still stand that there aren't any, and your remark about the fact it's thier legislation is 'fake news' fearmongering

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Nobody in their right mind can pretend that there isn't a significant fossil fuel lobby in Australia. You have got to be trolling. Have a good rest of your life, I'm done with your bullshit.

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[–] ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)

I agreed there was a federal lobby, just not a qld one

So that's a 'I have nothing to back up my argument, I was just ranting without researching' response.

Thanks for clarifying.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone -1 points 7 months ago

I agreed there was a federal lobby, just not a qld one

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