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Valve veteran slams Tim Sweeney and Epic Games for laying off 1000 people while making 'as much money as possible… and hey Tim, Gabe's better at that than you' (www.pcgamer.com)
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[–] 6 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Funny how Epic does the exact thing the other people did and somehow they’re derided for it, though.

Valve did not lay off 1000 people. Other companies doing this get the same shit as Epic does. So what exactly do you mean with this statement?

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Oh, I should've clarified. My bad. By the same shit I meant their launchers are pretty similar in their origin stories, purpose, and how they get there.

    I condemn all mass layoffs no matter who does it. Admittedly I haven't heard about any mass layoffs at Valve in recent history, so I'll give them they're better on that front (unless proven otherwise).

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Valve paid a bunch of publishers to sell their game exclusively on steam and refused to implement basic features (like a shopping cart) in their UI? Then bitched about how everyone more successful than them was evil and wrong?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

    Valve paid a bunch of publishers to sell their game exclusively on steam

    Fuck yes. Here's Darwinia going steam exclusive back in the day. Pretty scummy Epic behavior isn't it?

    https://forums.introversion.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=40203

    and refused to implement basic features (like a shopping cart) in their UI?

    Fun fact: itch.io doesn't have a shopping cart, Google Play doesn't have a shopping cart either, and they're both established (itch is even beloved despite that shortcoming, I personally like them). Only scummy Epic gets this complaint constantly lodged against them. Curious.

    Then bitched about how everyone more successful than them was evil and wrong?

    I don't care about their word battles, sorry.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Here's Darwinia going steam exclusive back in the day. Pretty scummy Epic behavior isn't it?

    I've been there during this time and this is the first time I'm hearing of this game as well as Valve doing this. Thanks for bringing it up. Any more examples?

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    You're welcome!

    I'm not sure of any more examples, just like you I've only heard about it lately after Epic spawned. I'm NOT hoping to find more of this scummy behavior from Valve, but I wouldn't be surprised if I did.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    One is a bunch? It also seems as though that particular game wasn't even on any other storefront, just their own website. Hardly seems comparable.

    Itch is also a much different beast, it's less a storefront and more a platform for developers to promote and sell their games independently. The pages seem designed and run by the devs and not Itch. It would make sense to not have a cart with that kind of decentralized design. You're not buying from Itch, youre buying from developers themselves.

    Im glad to see you only care about your own word battles instead of epics. Weird that they seem so parallel, though...

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    >gets given a case of valve signing an exclusivity deal with an indie game, Epic-style

    >"Hardly seems comparable."

    >gets given examples of stores that thrived without a shopping cart

    >comes up with excuses anyway

    By now I'd be feeling sorry for the double standards applied only against Epic, if you know, it wasn't just a carbon copy of the exact thing I'm criticizing by yet another sleazeball billionaire.

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