The more I think about it the less sense it makes to me to exclude gang violence. I'm not able to grasp why it should be excluded. Gang members perpetrating violence are also people, are also members of society, and are also a product of poverty and their environment, just like non-gang members involved in gun violence. They might be driven by different factors but it's still gun violence. I don't get it.

Because like I said, gang violence is not a random act of violence. It doesn't effect 99.999999999999999% of the public. They don't and probably will never be effected by it. It's its own category to be viewed and solved. Ending the war on drugs, ending for profit prison systems, increase in funding of education, creating safety nets, and helping those with drug addiction. These are things the general public really don't run into (education and single payer healthcare are the only two that they do). You're average person is not going to go in jail multiple times, they're not going to sling drugs and be in a gang. Yes members of gangs are the public, but they are a different side of the gun violence and need a different approach.

It might not make sense for nuance's sake to "lump it all together", but it doesn't make sense to me to completely exclude it either.

I'm not excluding it though, I'm calling out the nuances of our gun violence problem, and how anti2a groups lump it all together to scare the public into seeing a picture that truly doesn't exist.

Suicide is a good example of this, they claim that you're more likely to get killed in your own home if you own a firearm than if you don't. That's true, only if you include suicides, which make up 66%+ of our gun deaths. Which doesn't paint the picture they're trying to convey when you point out that their "fact" includes people killing themselves 99.9999999% of that fact. People don't hear that, they hear "if you have a gun in your home, you're more likely to be killed by someone breaking in and taking the gun and turning it on you". Because that's what they want people to think.