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[–] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

Yep, every time I've heard this from a man (and I am one) it's been the biggest red flag, and the woman was clearly the more responsible and dutiful one when all the facts were considered. I've learned to take these kinds of statements from men with a Mt Everest-sized grain of salt. I suppose it could go the other way too, but I've only ever seen men saying these things.

These same men will go through hell to gaslight and distort the reality and opinions of those around them to paint their former partners as crazy villains, and the courts as unjust. In reality, family court has seen it all and will take literally everything they can into consideration for an impartial decision - it's literally their job.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    every time I've heard this from a man (and I am one)

    Of course you are. And you're in here, where you're asked not to speak, beating your chest over how much on the side of women you are. Because what do women know about their preferences? Surely when they say "women only" that includes men who want to speak, right?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Just as a tought play.

    You presume something about the character of the person just based on their gender? And you can dismiss what they say because its the common knowledge that they hyperbole things, because of their gender. And that people are free from prejustice, just because its their job?

    Im just teasing you, but you see whats happening here right?

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    …you see whats happening here right?

    Yes. I see two men in a women's only group having long conversations with each other. In the women's only group.

    Is there something else I should be seeing?

    I know what I want to be seeing. I want to see two posturing baboons realize what's happening here and quietly delete their posts in embarrassment. I also, sadly, know what I expect to be seeing: at least one of the two will make excuses, protest, or otherwise miss the point entirely.

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  • [+] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago*

    Well, you're making some big assumptions there. I made my comment from personal experience of a small number of men in my life who had made similar comments, because I have noticed that they've all said similar things and engaged in similar behavior. It is not a sweeping prejudice. I also happen to know a number of men who handled separation and custody decisions gracefully and didn't try to blame their troubles on their former partner or the court.

    I generally tend to believe the courts' decisions in these cases because it's literally all they do, judges tend to have very high level training to avoid being tainted by biases, and the public is extremely sensitive to matters of judicial impartiality. For someone who was just ruled against, complaining about the system that made that ruling is such low hanging fruit in that moment. Just because someone is butthurt doesn't mean the system isn't working, and it doesn't mean they're in the right.

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