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rainbow drones (quokk.au)
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A two-panel meme contrasting a superficial view of leftism (opposing right-wing figures like Trump) with a deeper, systemic critique of capitalism and imperialism regardless of their political branding.
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[–] 7 points 7 months ago (8 children)

So uhh, leftists dont even mention that they oppose patriarchy? Sounds about right tbh, atleast from my experience

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It’s an issue of the meme format, it can’t include everything. But generally leftists are against all exploitation and oppression.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago

    Its also in issue in the real world. So many leftists I met were super knowledgeable about anticapitalism and antiimperialism, also put that to practice, but were still misogynistic asshats and cared little for antiracism.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Patriarchal society is an expression of capitalist imperialism thus opposition of capitalism and imperialism inherently opposes patriarchy. It's implied. It doesn't need to be said.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I would argue patriarchy was one of the reasons capitalism was actually able to exist and spread. Plus it also exists in non capitalist societies / contexts.

    It’s implied. It doesn’t need to be said.

    It definitely has to be said. Manarchists, brocialists and in general chauvinist on the left make it necessary. Because it isnt implied.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It’s much older than that, religion is generally extremely patriarchal and predates capitalism.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    Yes, religion is another political entity that manifests in patriarchal society. Patriarchal society being an expression of capitalism and imperialism doesn't mean that patriarchal expression cannot come from other sources, only that capitalism and imperialism themselves are inherently patriarchal and thus opposition to them is inherently oppositional to patriarchal society.

    It gets deeper into theory that if one isn't in opposition to patriarchy while saying that they oppose capitalism/imperialism is someone who isn't in actuality opposed to those systems as they still support the mechanisms of social interaction (gender norms and all that) that reinforce those systems but that's, like I said, getting into much deeper political theory that I don't have the books on hand to quote from.

    It's intersectional. These things all play on each other and it gets complicated.

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