▲ 628 ▼ Someone Forked Systemd to Strip Out Its Age Verification Support (itsfoss.com) submitted 7 months ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 182 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 15 points 7 months ago (8 children) It's saying that you can invent an infinite number of hypothetical futures but they are not useful for making decisions in the here and now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 months ago* (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 6 points 7 months ago (6 children) But this is just speculation. The fact is, systemd introduced a new optional field in the local database. They don't publish an OS so they have no obligation to do anything more, actual implementation would have to happen in other projects. What this is, is a spite-fork by some random AI researcher and anybody installing that on their system has way larger problems here and now than hypothetical ID verification in the maybe future. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (4 children) the vast majority of Linux users vehemently reject? I think you vastly over estimate the importance of the reddit/lemmy-sphere freaking out over this. And the more insane the slippery slopes you imagine skiing down, the less seriously you're taken. The fact that there isn't a serious programmer making a fork and instead y'all promoted a slopfork from someone who didn't read the docs, should be a wakeup call for how unserious y'all are. If it's the vast majority of Linux users, how come there was not one that's read the systemd docs? I honestly don't care that much about the law eitherway but the hyperventilating over a milktoast law is something else, it makes me think maybe we should age gate higher. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children) I don’t. The people I know in real life don’t take lightly to the changes. Yeah because they likely got misinformation about it from you, and nodded along because Alien rectal probes sound bad. With ID verification and other methods of age verification you absolutely can unmask users online if states demand APIs be implemented. Good thing there is no ID verification in the PR. You sound like a narc btw! You sound like Alex Jones! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago WTF are you on about? Incapable of reading comments and engaging clearly in serious discussions. I'd be happy to engage in serious discussion but you're working on Alex Jones level, veins throbbing over an optional field in systemd permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 15 points 7 months ago (8 children) It's saying that you can invent an infinite number of hypothetical futures but they are not useful for making decisions in the here and now permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 months ago* (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 6 points 7 months ago (6 children) But this is just speculation. The fact is, systemd introduced a new optional field in the local database. They don't publish an OS so they have no obligation to do anything more, actual implementation would have to happen in other projects. What this is, is a spite-fork by some random AI researcher and anybody installing that on their system has way larger problems here and now than hypothetical ID verification in the maybe future. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (4 children) the vast majority of Linux users vehemently reject? I think you vastly over estimate the importance of the reddit/lemmy-sphere freaking out over this. And the more insane the slippery slopes you imagine skiing down, the less seriously you're taken. The fact that there isn't a serious programmer making a fork and instead y'all promoted a slopfork from someone who didn't read the docs, should be a wakeup call for how unserious y'all are. If it's the vast majority of Linux users, how come there was not one that's read the systemd docs? I honestly don't care that much about the law eitherway but the hyperventilating over a milktoast law is something else, it makes me think maybe we should age gate higher. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children) I don’t. The people I know in real life don’t take lightly to the changes. Yeah because they likely got misinformation about it from you, and nodded along because Alien rectal probes sound bad. With ID verification and other methods of age verification you absolutely can unmask users online if states demand APIs be implemented. Good thing there is no ID verification in the PR. You sound like a narc btw! You sound like Alex Jones! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago WTF are you on about? Incapable of reading comments and engaging clearly in serious discussions. I'd be happy to engage in serious discussion but you're working on Alex Jones level, veins throbbing over an optional field in systemd permalink fedilink source parent
[+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 months ago* (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 6 points 7 months ago (6 children) But this is just speculation. The fact is, systemd introduced a new optional field in the local database. They don't publish an OS so they have no obligation to do anything more, actual implementation would have to happen in other projects. What this is, is a spite-fork by some random AI researcher and anybody installing that on their system has way larger problems here and now than hypothetical ID verification in the maybe future. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (4 children) the vast majority of Linux users vehemently reject? I think you vastly over estimate the importance of the reddit/lemmy-sphere freaking out over this. And the more insane the slippery slopes you imagine skiing down, the less seriously you're taken. The fact that there isn't a serious programmer making a fork and instead y'all promoted a slopfork from someone who didn't read the docs, should be a wakeup call for how unserious y'all are. If it's the vast majority of Linux users, how come there was not one that's read the systemd docs? I honestly don't care that much about the law eitherway but the hyperventilating over a milktoast law is something else, it makes me think maybe we should age gate higher. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children) I don’t. The people I know in real life don’t take lightly to the changes. Yeah because they likely got misinformation about it from you, and nodded along because Alien rectal probes sound bad. With ID verification and other methods of age verification you absolutely can unmask users online if states demand APIs be implemented. Good thing there is no ID verification in the PR. You sound like a narc btw! You sound like Alex Jones! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago WTF are you on about? Incapable of reading comments and engaging clearly in serious discussions. I'd be happy to engage in serious discussion but you're working on Alex Jones level, veins throbbing over an optional field in systemd permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 6 points 7 months ago (6 children) But this is just speculation. The fact is, systemd introduced a new optional field in the local database. They don't publish an OS so they have no obligation to do anything more, actual implementation would have to happen in other projects. What this is, is a spite-fork by some random AI researcher and anybody installing that on their system has way larger problems here and now than hypothetical ID verification in the maybe future. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (4 children) the vast majority of Linux users vehemently reject? I think you vastly over estimate the importance of the reddit/lemmy-sphere freaking out over this. And the more insane the slippery slopes you imagine skiing down, the less seriously you're taken. The fact that there isn't a serious programmer making a fork and instead y'all promoted a slopfork from someone who didn't read the docs, should be a wakeup call for how unserious y'all are. If it's the vast majority of Linux users, how come there was not one that's read the systemd docs? I honestly don't care that much about the law eitherway but the hyperventilating over a milktoast law is something else, it makes me think maybe we should age gate higher. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children) I don’t. The people I know in real life don’t take lightly to the changes. Yeah because they likely got misinformation about it from you, and nodded along because Alien rectal probes sound bad. With ID verification and other methods of age verification you absolutely can unmask users online if states demand APIs be implemented. Good thing there is no ID verification in the PR. You sound like a narc btw! You sound like Alex Jones! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago WTF are you on about? Incapable of reading comments and engaging clearly in serious discussions. I'd be happy to engage in serious discussion but you're working on Alex Jones level, veins throbbing over an optional field in systemd permalink fedilink source parent
[+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (4 children) the vast majority of Linux users vehemently reject? I think you vastly over estimate the importance of the reddit/lemmy-sphere freaking out over this. And the more insane the slippery slopes you imagine skiing down, the less seriously you're taken. The fact that there isn't a serious programmer making a fork and instead y'all promoted a slopfork from someone who didn't read the docs, should be a wakeup call for how unserious y'all are. If it's the vast majority of Linux users, how come there was not one that's read the systemd docs? I honestly don't care that much about the law eitherway but the hyperventilating over a milktoast law is something else, it makes me think maybe we should age gate higher. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children) I don’t. The people I know in real life don’t take lightly to the changes. Yeah because they likely got misinformation about it from you, and nodded along because Alien rectal probes sound bad. With ID verification and other methods of age verification you absolutely can unmask users online if states demand APIs be implemented. Good thing there is no ID verification in the PR. You sound like a narc btw! You sound like Alex Jones! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago WTF are you on about? Incapable of reading comments and engaging clearly in serious discussions. I'd be happy to engage in serious discussion but you're working on Alex Jones level, veins throbbing over an optional field in systemd permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (4 children) the vast majority of Linux users vehemently reject? I think you vastly over estimate the importance of the reddit/lemmy-sphere freaking out over this. And the more insane the slippery slopes you imagine skiing down, the less seriously you're taken. The fact that there isn't a serious programmer making a fork and instead y'all promoted a slopfork from someone who didn't read the docs, should be a wakeup call for how unserious y'all are. If it's the vast majority of Linux users, how come there was not one that's read the systemd docs? I honestly don't care that much about the law eitherway but the hyperventilating over a milktoast law is something else, it makes me think maybe we should age gate higher. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children) I don’t. The people I know in real life don’t take lightly to the changes. Yeah because they likely got misinformation about it from you, and nodded along because Alien rectal probes sound bad. With ID verification and other methods of age verification you absolutely can unmask users online if states demand APIs be implemented. Good thing there is no ID verification in the PR. You sound like a narc btw! You sound like Alex Jones! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago WTF are you on about? Incapable of reading comments and engaging clearly in serious discussions. I'd be happy to engage in serious discussion but you're working on Alex Jones level, veins throbbing over an optional field in systemd permalink fedilink source parent
[+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children) I don’t. The people I know in real life don’t take lightly to the changes. Yeah because they likely got misinformation about it from you, and nodded along because Alien rectal probes sound bad. With ID verification and other methods of age verification you absolutely can unmask users online if states demand APIs be implemented. Good thing there is no ID verification in the PR. You sound like a narc btw! You sound like Alex Jones! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago WTF are you on about? Incapable of reading comments and engaging clearly in serious discussions. I'd be happy to engage in serious discussion but you're working on Alex Jones level, veins throbbing over an optional field in systemd permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children) I don’t. The people I know in real life don’t take lightly to the changes. Yeah because they likely got misinformation about it from you, and nodded along because Alien rectal probes sound bad. With ID verification and other methods of age verification you absolutely can unmask users online if states demand APIs be implemented. Good thing there is no ID verification in the PR. You sound like a narc btw! You sound like Alex Jones! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago WTF are you on about? Incapable of reading comments and engaging clearly in serious discussions. I'd be happy to engage in serious discussion but you're working on Alex Jones level, veins throbbing over an optional field in systemd permalink fedilink source parent
[+] silverneedle@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago WTF are you on about? Incapable of reading comments and engaging clearly in serious discussions. I'd be happy to engage in serious discussion but you're working on Alex Jones level, veins throbbing over an optional field in systemd permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago WTF are you on about? Incapable of reading comments and engaging clearly in serious discussions. I'd be happy to engage in serious discussion but you're working on Alex Jones level, veins throbbing over an optional field in systemd permalink fedilink source parent