▲ 32 ▼ Giant Study May Have Found The Ideal Amount of Coffee to Lower Stress (www.sciencealert.com) submitted 7 months ago by Zerush@lemmy.ml to c/science@lemmy.ml 27 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (4 children) Two to three cups a day, for those wondering permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 7 months ago (3 children) I would think lowering stress would be maximized by just not taking stimulants 😅 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 13 points 7 months ago (1 child) you'd think so, but then you'd be completely wrong. TWO TO THREE CUPS A DAY OR ELSE. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165032725024346 looking at the study, basically they just found the same J-shaped correlation as found with other drug use like alcohol consumption that is, the minority who fully abstain from alcohol have increased mortality risk and the minority who engage in excessive drinking also see increased mortality risk, but the majority who engage in moderate alcohol consumption tend to have the lowest mortality risk The same is found here with caffeine consumption: in the dataset they looked at, most people drink 2 - 3 cups of coffee per day, and there are minorities on either side who drink much less or abstain from coffee, and a minority on the other side who drink much more than 2 - 3 cups a day. Because most people don't suffer from mood disorders, the people who do suffer are over-represented on the margins and diluted by healthy people in the category of average consumption. It's unlikely that actually drinking 2 - 3 cups of coffee is responsible for the positive outcomes in mood (just like we could say drinking moderate amounts of alcohol are not likely responsible for improved mortality rates), instead it's probably fair to say that the average, healthy person tends to be like everyone else and engages in socially acceptable, moderate drug use. Why they are healthy probably has less to do with their drug use and more to do with other factors like diet, exercise, economic status, access to healthcare, environmental factors (like not living in a heavily polluted place, like the way ghettos are built next to a major interstate, or rather how interstates are often built through the poorest neighborhoods), and so on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TechnoCat@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago I haven't had a cup of coffee in weeks. This really stresses me out! /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 7 months ago (3 children) I would think lowering stress would be maximized by just not taking stimulants 😅 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 13 points 7 months ago (1 child) you'd think so, but then you'd be completely wrong. TWO TO THREE CUPS A DAY OR ELSE. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165032725024346 looking at the study, basically they just found the same J-shaped correlation as found with other drug use like alcohol consumption that is, the minority who fully abstain from alcohol have increased mortality risk and the minority who engage in excessive drinking also see increased mortality risk, but the majority who engage in moderate alcohol consumption tend to have the lowest mortality risk The same is found here with caffeine consumption: in the dataset they looked at, most people drink 2 - 3 cups of coffee per day, and there are minorities on either side who drink much less or abstain from coffee, and a minority on the other side who drink much more than 2 - 3 cups a day. Because most people don't suffer from mood disorders, the people who do suffer are over-represented on the margins and diluted by healthy people in the category of average consumption. It's unlikely that actually drinking 2 - 3 cups of coffee is responsible for the positive outcomes in mood (just like we could say drinking moderate amounts of alcohol are not likely responsible for improved mortality rates), instead it's probably fair to say that the average, healthy person tends to be like everyone else and engages in socially acceptable, moderate drug use. Why they are healthy probably has less to do with their drug use and more to do with other factors like diet, exercise, economic status, access to healthcare, environmental factors (like not living in a heavily polluted place, like the way ghettos are built next to a major interstate, or rather how interstates are often built through the poorest neighborhoods), and so on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TechnoCat@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago I haven't had a cup of coffee in weeks. This really stresses me out! /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 13 points 7 months ago (1 child) you'd think so, but then you'd be completely wrong. TWO TO THREE CUPS A DAY OR ELSE. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165032725024346 looking at the study, basically they just found the same J-shaped correlation as found with other drug use like alcohol consumption that is, the minority who fully abstain from alcohol have increased mortality risk and the minority who engage in excessive drinking also see increased mortality risk, but the majority who engage in moderate alcohol consumption tend to have the lowest mortality risk The same is found here with caffeine consumption: in the dataset they looked at, most people drink 2 - 3 cups of coffee per day, and there are minorities on either side who drink much less or abstain from coffee, and a minority on the other side who drink much more than 2 - 3 cups a day. Because most people don't suffer from mood disorders, the people who do suffer are over-represented on the margins and diluted by healthy people in the category of average consumption. It's unlikely that actually drinking 2 - 3 cups of coffee is responsible for the positive outcomes in mood (just like we could say drinking moderate amounts of alcohol are not likely responsible for improved mortality rates), instead it's probably fair to say that the average, healthy person tends to be like everyone else and engages in socially acceptable, moderate drug use. Why they are healthy probably has less to do with their drug use and more to do with other factors like diet, exercise, economic status, access to healthcare, environmental factors (like not living in a heavily polluted place, like the way ghettos are built next to a major interstate, or rather how interstates are often built through the poorest neighborhoods), and so on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165032725024346 looking at the study, basically they just found the same J-shaped correlation as found with other drug use like alcohol consumption that is, the minority who fully abstain from alcohol have increased mortality risk and the minority who engage in excessive drinking also see increased mortality risk, but the majority who engage in moderate alcohol consumption tend to have the lowest mortality risk The same is found here with caffeine consumption: in the dataset they looked at, most people drink 2 - 3 cups of coffee per day, and there are minorities on either side who drink much less or abstain from coffee, and a minority on the other side who drink much more than 2 - 3 cups a day. Because most people don't suffer from mood disorders, the people who do suffer are over-represented on the margins and diluted by healthy people in the category of average consumption. It's unlikely that actually drinking 2 - 3 cups of coffee is responsible for the positive outcomes in mood (just like we could say drinking moderate amounts of alcohol are not likely responsible for improved mortality rates), instead it's probably fair to say that the average, healthy person tends to be like everyone else and engages in socially acceptable, moderate drug use. Why they are healthy probably has less to do with their drug use and more to do with other factors like diet, exercise, economic status, access to healthcare, environmental factors (like not living in a heavily polluted place, like the way ghettos are built next to a major interstate, or rather how interstates are often built through the poorest neighborhoods), and so on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TechnoCat@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago I haven't had a cup of coffee in weeks. This really stresses me out! /s permalink fedilink source parent