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[–] 13 points 8 months ago* (16 children)

I feel like denying the existence of any amount of democracy everywhere on earth is exactly the mindset that empowers fascists and communist dictators.

It feels good to be able to simplify everything down, but concentration of wealth in market economies is a complicated issue that requires complicated solutions that the majority has been busy crafting and implementing for thousands of years as we progressed from the time of god kings to now. We have real democracies. We have means of the many peacefully controlling the privileged few. We just need more people to participate in that system.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Sorry, but peacefully??? When's the last time the ultra rich did anything considerate for the rest of us? The time is now to work together, yes, but they expect peacefully so they can easily control you with police they own and politicians they buy!

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago*

    To use America as an example: The Ultra Rich fear the IRS, that is why they promote people like Donald Trump in a bid to dismantle it. We created the IRS and we have a responsibility for future generations to empower and protect it, to harm people like the Ultra Rich, to harm Trump.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)

    Where are the real democracies? The god-kings still keep on fucking kids. Why would they let voting stop them? Doesn't claiming their game as a degree of democracy just support their dictatorship?

    Sure, participation is the least must-do right now, but if it worked, it wouldn't be allowed.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (10 children)

    Prime example Finnland. Highest tax rate on the rich in the world and also ranks as the happiest nation on earth regularly.

    Lesser example is that the USA, while failing, is still in a much better position than Russia which has been solely countrolled by a plutocratic oligarchy for decades.

    Clearly there is a spectrum for how much or how little people control policy and wealth. There is a a battle going on between the rich and the governments built by the people.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

    Finland is currently run by the same oligarch network chain, vassals of Trump and his handlers, planning to use the area for nukes for the big show.

    Capitalists have their brown shirts in the government, currently a child groomer as a Minister of Social Affairs and Health. Once in a while a centrist (still capitalist) party might become the biggest (next year probable), but it works in the ratchet politics method, never undoing the damage, basically a controlled opposition.

    Highest unemployment rate in Europe. Food banks have to turn people away.

    Everything that used to better than elsewhere is cut down. Austerity agenda.

    The degree of riggedness is just more hidden, the same world systems "democracy" there isn't able to purge or become isolated from the now rotten institutions everywhere.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    You may laugh, but if even some best example of democracy has the people in such a dire situation, they for sure aren't laughing

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    The best example of democracy is the happiest most well cared for people on earth.

    The best example of an anarchy is Myanmar (at least before the 2021 coup) and has common people living like medieval peasants while the elite treat it as the world's most expensive resort location, while also being manipulated by China in proxy aggression with India.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    If that is your view on true happiness and being well cared for, then what is the point of anything. Slavery with extra steps

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    My view on true happiness is that happiness is good and the system that creates the most happiness with the least suffering is the best system.

    I'm having trouble understanding which part of that you oppose. Is it your opinion that there should be less happiness total or that all happiness should cost equal or greater suffering?

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    My view is that a system based on harm, suffering, exploitation and oppression causes an unjust ceiling to the available happiness

    Edit: not even a subjective view, that's how it actually is

    Progress is blocked arbitrarily by sticking to "it's not that bad somewhere" thinking

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    The system that demonstrably has the least suffering is built upon suffering? How do you figure?

    It's like I'm arguing with Bizarro Superman.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    Let's put it this way: Why do you want the system to cause even that amount of suffering when it doesn't need to be mandatory at all

    Edit I see the reply talking in circles just two comments apart. Unbelievable Epstein/capitalist apologia

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