▲ 886 ▼ Gas imports or solar panels? (media.piefed.zip) submitted 8 months ago by inari@piefed.zip to c/climate@slrpnk.net 178 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (8 children) So, driving batteries around the country? Really? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 months ago (3 children) I mean no, because it probably wouldn't ever need to be done. But I'm not sure why it would be any worse than trucks full of oil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] stickly@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) It wouldn't be done because the energy density of a battery is atrocious compared to oil, something like 100x worse. Half of the input spent in burning oil comes for free in the air around us, so batteries will never likely beat it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 1 point 8 months ago it probably wouldn’t ever need to be done. As the parent commenter said, the energy itself wouldn't need to be delivered. You just deliver the panels once. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago Why be just as bad as the old system? And while I'm not sure, I would expect it would be hugely more inefficient in terms of energy produced compared to energy delivered to the end user. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago* (3 children) Bud, we drive gas around the country. Thats even stupider. Lot of propaganda from oil companies is working, I see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) Yeah, I know. That's why driving electrons around the country isn't any better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) You don't need to drive electrons around constantly - just drive the panels there once and you have power there for 20 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago Michigan is cloudy or overcast most of the winter. It's a lake-effect thing, it starts once you get over the border from Indiana. Why use panels 4 or 5 months out of the year? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 months ago (3 children) I mean no, because it probably wouldn't ever need to be done. But I'm not sure why it would be any worse than trucks full of oil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] stickly@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) It wouldn't be done because the energy density of a battery is atrocious compared to oil, something like 100x worse. Half of the input spent in burning oil comes for free in the air around us, so batteries will never likely beat it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 1 point 8 months ago it probably wouldn’t ever need to be done. As the parent commenter said, the energy itself wouldn't need to be delivered. You just deliver the panels once. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago Why be just as bad as the old system? And while I'm not sure, I would expect it would be hugely more inefficient in terms of energy produced compared to energy delivered to the end user. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stickly@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 child) It wouldn't be done because the energy density of a battery is atrocious compared to oil, something like 100x worse. Half of the input spent in burning oil comes for free in the air around us, so batteries will never likely beat it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 1 point 8 months ago it probably wouldn’t ever need to be done. As the parent commenter said, the energy itself wouldn't need to be delivered. You just deliver the panels once. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 1 point 8 months ago it probably wouldn’t ever need to be done. As the parent commenter said, the energy itself wouldn't need to be delivered. You just deliver the panels once. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago Why be just as bad as the old system? And while I'm not sure, I would expect it would be hugely more inefficient in terms of energy produced compared to energy delivered to the end user. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago* (3 children) Bud, we drive gas around the country. Thats even stupider. Lot of propaganda from oil companies is working, I see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) Yeah, I know. That's why driving electrons around the country isn't any better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) You don't need to drive electrons around constantly - just drive the panels there once and you have power there for 20 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago Michigan is cloudy or overcast most of the winter. It's a lake-effect thing, it starts once you get over the border from Indiana. Why use panels 4 or 5 months out of the year? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children) Yeah, I know. That's why driving electrons around the country isn't any better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) You don't need to drive electrons around constantly - just drive the panels there once and you have power there for 20 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago Michigan is cloudy or overcast most of the winter. It's a lake-effect thing, it starts once you get over the border from Indiana. Why use panels 4 or 5 months out of the year? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) You don't need to drive electrons around constantly - just drive the panels there once and you have power there for 20 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago Michigan is cloudy or overcast most of the winter. It's a lake-effect thing, it starts once you get over the border from Indiana. Why use panels 4 or 5 months out of the year? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago Michigan is cloudy or overcast most of the winter. It's a lake-effect thing, it starts once you get over the border from Indiana. Why use panels 4 or 5 months out of the year? permalink fedilink source parent