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In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison. (www.theguardian.com)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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[–] 6 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Let me refine: "Fuck the Israeli government!" I have no beef with the country / people insofar as they hate their genocidal government.

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  • [+] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Brainwash is real. However, I am disappointed that you completely ignored the "insofar" limitation to my statement.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Really important distinction

    Oh 99% (quite a bit less of course) of Israelis support genocide, then fuck Israel! No, you don’t throw babies out with bath water, even when they’re the worst and you’re mad as you should be.

    Fuck any genocidal Israeli assholes, but Israel is too big to go blanket on them like this.

    Why aren’t we antisemitic, b/c we know what words mean and we’re not antisemitic. Let’s talk like both those are true too.

    Netanyahu should lick my pickled taint until he stops murdering kids

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    insofar as they hate their genocidal government.

    Recent polling shows only 19% of the Israeli population don't support the genocide

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    So what? You're gonna lump them in with the rest just because they were born there?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    No, nothing like that, just wanting to clarify that it's not a case of a rogue government going against popular opinion. Genocide is very popular in Israeli society, to the point that, if you ever talk to an anti-genocide Israeli, they tend to feel like political outcasts.

    IMO, Israel is unusual because a disproportionate amount of the population are migrants who moved there specifically because they support the genocidal project, and people who were born there but oppose the project are far more likely than average to be able to move to another country and get out.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I think you are mixing the early stages of the state of Israel - certainly involving displacement and violence against Palestinian natives - with the recurring outbursts of Apartheid and crimes against humanity. There were calm phases in Israel, and many people moved there without genocidal actions ever being part of the public perception.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    There was never a time where Israel was not an colonialist and implicitly genocidal project. There also haven't been "outbursts" of apartheid and crimes against humanity; those have been a constant at all times.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    and this is now where you are bordering hard if not delving into antisemitism :/ I have no desire to speak with you any further.

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