When women riders and drivers told us they wanted more control over how they ride and earn, we listened. That feedback led to Women Preferences, features designed to give women the choice to ride with other women. Since our first pilots last summer, we’ve heard just how much that choice matters—from feeling more comfortable in the back seat to more confident behind the wheel.

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[–] 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (83 children)

can males avoid women drivers or is that considered sexist? what if a male wants to mitigate the chance of being falsely accused of assault/rape? I hope people have the choice regardless of gender

edit: the downvotes are funny... I assume people think I mean women should not have the choice, but I mean the opposite. EVERYONE should have a choice, or no one. it's call being fair. rape/sexual assault is not a good scenario for anyone and if people are fearful, they should be allowed to make a choice that allows them to feel comfortable. the downvotes just show me that people are disrespectful/not caring when it comes to fairness and equality. l.. or they are just flat out sexist pricks.

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  • [–] 43 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    As a domestic abuser survivor (of a woman), a lot of us men are just not taken seriously. It is a lot like how people diminish one person's pain/suffering just because it "isn't as bad" as someone else's pain. Men are absolutely abused, raped, and falsely accused. But because it happens to women more, we have to bear our suffering in silence.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    No one is saying that men cannot be victims of harassment or assault.

    However it is objectively true that women deal with this problem in much higher quantities than men do.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    However it is objectively true that women deal with this problem in much higher quantities than men do.

    How do you know that it is objectively true, if you also know these statistics are based around a culture that discourages men from reporting this problem?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    And that's why there should be a "no foreigners or blacks"-option.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Per RAINN, 57% of perpetrators are white. I'll charitably imagine you're attempting to point out perceived hypocrisy in gender vs race selection, but you're perpetuating racist and xenophobic stereotypes. White men commit rape at more than twice the rate of black men, and naturally born citizens commit crimes at rates higher than both documented and undocumented immigrants.

    If you want to make the case that it's a discriminatory policy, you're welcome to do so, but tying it to false perceptions of race is probably not the best move. It's coming off as reactionary at best.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    The actual argument is that it's acceptable to discriminate against people of color because data shows they are considerably more violent than whites.

    The same thing applies to discriminating against men because data shows they are considerably more violent than women.

    Sexism and racism are okay if you have the data to back it up. Unless... this is a double standard and we're allowing discrimination based on sex but not discrimination based on race?

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  • [–] 52 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    It might be considered sexist, depending on who you ask.

    The amount of males being falsely accused of sexual assault is much lower than the amount of females being exposed to sexual assault. Hence why there has been provided a measure for women at this scale, and not for men.

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    As a penis haver who has been falsely accused of sexual assault, it’s far more common than you think.

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  • [+] 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (19 children)
  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    You ever tried taking a little girl to the park when you identified as a man?

    It gets really weird when complete strangers go up to her and ask her if she knows you.

    They don't do that when you present as a woman.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    This has never happened to me, and I take my daughter, and her friends to the park all the time...

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    I never understood this fear.

    Always seems weird when people are more worried about accusations than sexual assault/harassement. The latter seems far more common ime, even if you are seen as a guy.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (5 children)

    Men, some subgroup of men in particular, are at a higher risk of false accusations than of sexual assault.

    Are they? The former seems pretty much unheard of while the latter ain't uncommon. I think the only subgroup of men where the risk of being "falsely" accused of SA is high are men who commit SA and just don't believe it is SA. Of course perception of risk can vary and the (perceived) severity of the event matters as well.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    So, if women can have the option not to ride with men, which is no problem. Then why can't men have the option too?lWhat harm does it do to women if men can have the option as well?

    There is no good way for me to interpret this, it must be an ulterior motive in there.

    Either 1: the person saying that is a misandrist that, although they did have negative experiences with men, this does not justify their contemptfull attitude towards men, which they cover up under the excuse of protecting women.

    2: They actually believe their gender should be have advantages. That just because they were born a certain gender, that gender should have advantages. Like, finding excuses for why the other gender deserves less.

    3: They are afraid that giving men an equal option will make them seem like an Incel that is trying to make it seem like men are equally vulnerable for propaganda reasons, so they are afraid to choose the just and equal option, just because they are afraid of backlash. So men get dicked over for little good reason, because westerners see everything as zero-sum.

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I have never been afraid of being falsely accused of assault or rape because I have never done anything even close to anything that can be defined as assault or rape, or shown any behavior or tendencies to do so.

    I think you're missing the basic definition of what a false accusation is, here. The whole point of it is that you didn't do the thing that you're being accused of.

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  • [–] 31 points 8 months ago (40 children)

    This is the shit that makes men look bad.

    Men absolutely do not experience sexual harassment at the same level that women do.

    It’s not close at all.

    Why can’t we just let the women have a dub without being all “buhhh what about da men???”

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (38 children)

    And women don't experience accusations of sexual harrassment at the same level that men do.

    Men also experience plain physical assault at ~5x the rate of women.

    Why can't we just support equality for everyone? Why is that so hard?

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (15 children)

    As much as you want to try to paint men as the victims, they’re just not.

    Yes, it happens. No it does not happen nearly as frequently.

    This issue is extremely skewed toward women.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    People of all types are victims of various stereotypes.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    What does this even mean lmao

    I just don’t see this need to want to be a victim.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    Because you’re bending over backwards to try to show men as the victims of rampant sexual harassment when it overwhelmingly occurs to women.

    Men are not being victimized here, women are just getting relief

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    Oi vey the drama

    No one is saying that false allegations of sexual assault don’t matter.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    exactly. why argue about equality for all on scenarios that are differing in terms of frequency, but still happen regardless of how often. women get assaulted and should be protected by allowing for choice, and men get falsely accused and should be protected by allowing for choice.

    me = equality and choices for all

    you = but women experience it worse, and it doesn't happen as frequent for men so men shouldn't have the same safety nets as women. (not equality)

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (18 children)

    Why can't we just support equality for everyone? Why is that so hard?

    At least part of it is because of people like you who get upset whenever someone challenges the grossly inequitous status quo.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (17 children)

    You're the one advocating for inequality.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    that's literally why I bought up the topic of equality... and you're resisting it because... actually there is no reason to resist equality.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    that's literally why I bought up the topic of equality...

    What you brought up is an appeal to maintain the current iniquitous status quo, by suggesting that the real problem with men being the aggressors in the vast majority of sexual assaults isn't the sexual assaults, but that some men might be falsely accused. But hey, if women want to protect themselves from that, we should legalise excluding them and reducing their service options in other areas, because you know, that's what equality looks like...

    The thing is, you don't give a shit about the real world manifestation of inequality. What you want is a platonic ideal of equality, which doesn't exist in the real world, and using it as the measure, just ensures that real world inequality stays around and never gets challenged, because people like you can point to the rules and say "We already have equality" .

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    You instance banned me without giving any justification.

    The reason will be in the modlog

    But generally, it's spam, transphobia and other bigotry that gets you banned.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    You have a 7 hour old account. You'll have to excuse me if I have no idea who you are

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Bigotry and spam doesn't become ok based on where you say it

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Different people can be equal in some areas and unequal in others

    So what you're saying is that women being sexually harassed is just how it is in a society with equality?

    Because if that's not what you're saying, I'm curious why you think a movement to reduce the disparity is a problem? Well, I'm not curious, I know the answer...

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The amount of falsely accused is less than 5% of all the rape cases.

    So a women getting actually raped is about 20 times more likely than a man being falsely accused of rape.

    And that is only counting all the instances where the rape got reported.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    The amount of falsely accused is less than 5% of all the rape cases.

    LOL how could you possibly know that?

    So a women getting actually raped is about 20 times more likely than a man being falsely accused of rape.

    Not sure what you're getting at here. Do you think this is some sort of competition for who is the biggest victim? And only the victor should be granted "equality"?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    people just... don't get it. I'm shocked everytime I mention equality, and get met with the above nonsense. lol

    I will never understand people's thought processes. if I said no women should have this, sure... but I'm asking for everyone to have the same right, like... what?

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