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‘Stop appeasing Trump all the way to World War III,’ Starmer told (morningstaronline.co.uk)
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Starmer attempts to make up with the warmongering US president as tens of thousands protest against the bombing of Iran over the weekend

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[–] 0 points 8 months ago (7 children)

why do they keep mentioning world war 3? who plans on joining? china? is it just china they're worried about?

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago* (4 children)

    Cart before the horse there. Two-sidedness is something that tends to crop up in world wars, but it's not how they seem to begin.

    So far they seem to begin by multiple concurrent conflicts yes, and-ing each other until every large entity is involved. When the fate of Taiwan might depend on what happens in Iran, and the fate of the Baltics depends on how well Ukraine defends against Russia, what do you call that if not a world at war?

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    China and Taiwan have been on the map for ages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davidson_window

    The concept gained widespread attention following CIA Director William J. Burns' 2023 statement that, according to U.S. intelligence, General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party Xi Jinping had instructed the People's Liberation Army to be ready for a Taiwan invasion by 2027.[2]

    Europe has been at war with Russia since 2022

    what do you call that if not a world at war?

    You're right, it'd be a world at war but I wouldn't classify it as a 'world war' unless China plans on invading Europe or America or is it just over the island themselves?

    I think it'd involve more than a big war over Taiwan or Ukraine, these would just be big proxy wars

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I don't think we can be that clinical about the strict definition of a world war when we only have two examples to work from. We could end up with half the world economy spent on war and still be calling it proxy wars all the way down.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I mean if there's only 2 countries being invaded: Ukraine and Taiwan and everyone is fighting through them it doesn't feel like we here in the western world are really on the brink

    It won't really feeeel like a world war to me until Europe or America or Australia etc are actually getting invaded, it's just a large glorified proxy war

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