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[–] 15 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Anyone that uses AI to compose music or make art is neither a musician, nor an artist- any more than I am a mathematician because I use a calculator.

It’s trash.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    As a hobbyist photographer, I find it pretty amusing that when I use a device I just point at a target and press a button, it counts as art - but when I spend 3 hours tweaking a prompt to get exactly the image I want, suddenly it doesn't. Seems way more like an ideological stance than a logical one.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    There's a lot more to good photography than just point and click

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    The discussion is whether it is art or not. It doesn't matter how bad someone is at it - people still accept it as art. You'd be a massive dick telling a beginner that their photography is so terrible it doesn't even qualify as art. You can also take a great picture completely by accident, just like you can put a ton of effort into one and still end up with garbage.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Any HUMAN being using learned skill to capture a photo is art. Because art is something produced by a mind that strives to create it.

    AI is not art because AI can’t comprehend art.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    A camera can't comprehend art either - it's just a tool a human uses to create it. AI doesn't generate anything on its own either; it needs a human to operate it too. The camera isn't the artist, Photoshop isn't, a canvas and brush aren't, Illustrator isn't. They're just tools. The artist is the human behind them.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Okay. I’m convinced you’re one of these “artists” I referred to. No one defends trash that hasn’t found a way to get something from it.

    Stop with the camera thing. It’s a bad argument. It’s not remotely the same thing. And every time I hear it- which is a lot because it’s The only thing the “artists” and “musicians” use to defend their trash- it makes me cringe.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Go ahead and tell the AI to scout out the location, then travel to the location to shoot, wait for the optimal lighting conditions and then find the best angle and camera settings to capture that one in a million photo that your years of experience working with film and photography tools taught you.

    If you can tell me honestly that an AI would do the same job, then I’m going to say you should find a new hobby.

    I have heard this bogus “but what about a camera?” argument more times than I can count. And it’s always a poor argument in defense of AI.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I don't need to tell an AI to scout the location, travel there, wait for optimal lighting, nail the composition, dial in the settings, etc. I don't need to tell a sculptor to do that either - it's a completely different artistic field. Nobody here is claiming AI-generated pictures are photography - they're not. Photography is done with a camera. The discussion is whether generating pictures with AI counts as art or not - not whether it's photography.

    I'm using photography as the example because people dismiss AI art on the grounds that "it doesn't require any skill or effort," but the exact same argument has been thrown at photography forever. There was a time when purists said the same thing about digital photography, and they were equally saying it about film photography back when it was new and painting was still "the" way to make pictures.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    It’s a shit argument. A photo, digital or otherwise is CREATING the location. It’s a copy of a thing that already exists.

    AI can create entire songs complete with vocals that can fool engineered with have been in the business for their entire life. This is not remotely close to the same thing and you know it.

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