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[–] 156 points 8 months ago (7 children)

The problem with "age" verification is that politicians are confusing it with identity verification.

I should not have to prove my name and other biometrics to prove age.

Age verification is the fascist way to get people to identify themselves and their online activity. Almost every state that has some sort of age verification law has zero method to actually verify age. No digital ID service, no way to share a credential for verification.

They want people to upload an ID.

This isn't about keeping children safe and it never is. It's about identifying critics of the government.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    It is possible to build an age verification system, where you use your actual ID with a cryptographic process without any personal data. The technology has existed for decades now.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    problems with that:

    • how do you verify that it works the way they say it works
    • how do you make yourself heard when it doesn't

    so far the only answer I am aware of for these questions is "you don't"

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    The additional problem with that is straight up discrimination. We're replacing a predatory system with another discriminatory system. It is essentially another path that leads to the same thing. Fighting fascism with fascism.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Public key cryptography and signatures are common technologies nowadays.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    you won't be able to use that to verify the integrity of the system when the worry is that its creators are dishonest. you may be able to verify that something has happened (e.g. a successful attestation), but you won't be able to tell if the attestation was actually executed for your device and the app in question, or it was proxied to another device the devs run to fake attestations.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Force the building of a light "honour based" age verification system (just enter your birthday, we trust you not to lie to us), then as more comply add more requirements to it til all accounts are linked and they know when you shit

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