Does the United States have a spending problem? Obviously, but I really wanted to talk about how the cost of living crisis is presenting itself in your community. That relates to this article because you can't squeeze blood from a stone. If all of you have no disposable income, no savings, and a job market that can't support your current cost of living... What happens if you lose your job? Do you default on loan obligations along with America because we are stretched to the edge. Should we vote in members of congress to pass more tax breaks for private jets?Are mods whack? Let me know in the comments.

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[–] 4 points 8 months ago (17 children)

So stop issuing bonds. They’re unnecessary in a fiat currency.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Totally necessary when you need to finance 10 Trillion dollars in tax cuts for the rich over 10 years. They also bolster international trade so it's not all bad. Issuing bonds for infrastructure with built in returns for example good use of leverage and tax payer dollars.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I assume the first sentence is a joke.

    Don’t know how they bolster international trade. If anything, they inhibit it as China parks its trillions of dollars in treasuries to artificially inflate the value of the dollar to make their exports more competitive and the US’s less.

    The federal government doesn’t need bonds to fund infrastructure. It issues the currency. We don’t need to get a loan in a currency we issue.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 8 months ago

    I wish it was a joke, they just did that with the Big beautiful bill last year. It's not an ideal way to use them and probably should be banned.

    Japan/china hold US bonds because its makes for easy trading, it stabilizes the currency exchange market and allows for large payments to be made without much fuss. The only reason why they want our bonds is because we trade so much. chinas mechanism of controlling the exchange rate is the same as the US, we both like to just print more money. National bank buys bonds to stabilize market. anyway most of the time the bonds are held to avoid exchange rates. They themselves becoming a medium of trade like cash between nations.

    Of course we don't need to issue bonds at all for funding, again they are just a useful tool for global investing and trade. They get abused and extorted like any other financial market. christ imagine if we were using silver as a medium of exchange. their not really something I'd spend much effort defending politically, but economically idk I invest in them. They were kinda nice back when the federal government functioned

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (13 children)

    Other states have been dumping bonds at unprecedented levels and investing in BRICS.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    China is investing in China?

    And?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (9 children)

    You want the government to stop issuing bonds. If states are dumping them, there's an inference there, somewhere.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (8 children)

    I don't really care about the national debt. The OP is worried about national debt. One way to fix that (if it bothers you) is to stop issuing debt. As bonds mature and aren't replaced, no more debt.

    What does it matter if "states" are dumping bonds? Who does it hurt if they sell bonds at a loss? Or a profit? What's the inference?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (5 children)

    If the USA can't pay it's debts, we can't trade. Everyone should care about the national debt. It's not coming out of the billionaires' bank accounts, and multinational corporations will simply do business elsewhere. We don't have the infrastructure to produce internally, and if our credit score degrades enough, we won't be able to build it, either.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah, you don’t understand money.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    You’re the one who said “if we can’t pay our debts we can’t trade.” That’s nonsense on its face. You need to explain that to me.

    Meanwhile, I’ll waste cycles attempting to explain modern monetary theory on a phone keyboard.

    Fiat currency is just numbers. Ones and zeros. The Fed(eral Reserve) can simply type these numbers into existence. That’s where the currency comes from. China can buy treasuries, but in a fiat system it’s unnecessary. Money comes from The Fed. The government could close the bond window tomorrow and it would just mean China would put its money in a bank account. Or, you know, spend it on things sold in dollars. Which is what currency issuance for.

    Treasuries are a relic of the gold standard when currency was federally required to be tied to some quantity of shiny rocks. It was discarded because it artificially constrained monetary policy. E.g. during wars, the government couldn’t legally print currency, which is why there were all those silly war bonds.

    Now the only constraint on issuing currency (really) is inflation. As we are about to find out, inflation is more than just currency issuance. Oil shocks, pandemic-induced supply chain crunches, and avian influenza outbreaks can raise inflation without any change in currency supply.

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