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[–] socsa@piefed.social 9 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

Or just like, read any political theory outside of their extremely narrow bubble. There's a lot of revisionist marxist theory which keeps the core concepts without the Soviet baggage. Anyone who is still out here trying to defend Soviet statecraft is likely more interestes in relitigating the cold war than actual political theory.

Cowbee's schtick is so transparent. He'll write (vibe) long posts like this which make him seem perfectly reasonable, like of course MLs condemn the Soviets for this and that! And then turn around and defend this shit in other threads, and will certainly never correct a fellow ML on these topics under any circumstances.

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[–] pet1t@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Oh yes, I definitely have friends that support Marxist theory but rebuke the Soviet baggage. Most sane approach tbh

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[–] UntimedDiffusion@piefed.zip 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They wouldn't care, they'd just write it off as western propaganda (see: !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works). The Lemmy head devs and admins of .ml are the same way

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

meanwhileongrad mods are removing posts about the genocide in gaza. They are as bad as tankis

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[–] pet1t@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago*

guess I'm friends with western propaganda plants, oh well

edit: typo

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[–] Tuuktuuk@nord.pub 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

It's a religion. Such an extremely pious person will see what they want to see, no matter what. They'd probably be disgusted by seeing people who have voluntarily left the paradise that was USSR, and that view would shape the interpretation of whatever those people might say.

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[–] pet1t@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

I'd love to take them on a trip to former Soviet countries and have them sit down with people that actually lived through it. I'll start making some popcorn already

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[–] Tuuktuuk@nord.pub 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

My grandma has that same religion. In the late 1980 she was visiting Berlin, and coming back she had said: "On the western side the wall was full of graffitis and really ugly, but the eastern side of the wall was completely clean. That shows where people are happy and where not."

They would definitely manage to protect their mind from any information contradicting their religion. Once the brain's gone, the brain's gone. There's a small chance that a new one will grow to fill the hollow, but that's not something that can be influenced from outside the brain.

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[–] pet1t@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)

My dad was stationed in Germany for his compulsory service and worked there for a few years after that. He has crossed the wall to the Eastern side as well and he hated it. Constantly feeling uneasy, strict etc. Tanks stationed along the road. He described it as a depressing, eerie place.

To each their own view, ofc, but I wouldn't exactly call it a happy place and neither would he

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[–] Tuuktuuk@nord.pub 1 point 8 months ago*

Neither would anybody in their right mind.

But, my grandma saw both cities through the goggles of her religion. Those were tanks of peace.

In 2015 I spent some days in East Türkestan – in Qulja, in Ürümqi, in Khorgos. I've been wondering how the tankies would have interpreted if they visited there and saw what I saw. I noticed people avoiding certain themes, I saw them getting scared if I tried speaking Uyghur near Han children, I saw heavily armed policemen on top of APCs. I saw a dystopy.

But a person for whom CCP counts as high clergy... They would see all that differently.

I believe that a pious communist would be a horrible bother for a person who has fled the USSR. They'd get no more out of it than my grandmother got out of visiting both sides or Berlin back then. You'd get a very pissed off survivor of USSR and a pious person who is feeling good and righteous for proving once again that all people opposing his thoughts are nazis. Except for those who actually are, because they have such similar thought patterns to those Pure in Faith that they would feel like friends to such a pious person. Unless, of course, they'd outright show a swastika tattoo to them.