▲ 504 ▼ AIs can’t stop recommending nuclear strikes in war game simulations (www.newscientist.com) submitted 8 months ago by Valnao@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world 122 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] privatepirate@lemmy.zip 21 points 8 months ago (13 children) Where is this from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 83 points 8 months ago (12 children) The 1983 movie WarGames. This is the computer's conclusion after simulating every possible outcome of Global Thermonuclear War. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] privatepirate@lemmy.zip 22 points 8 months ago (2 children) Thank you so much I'm going to watch it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago It's a fun classic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] unphazed@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago They did a sequel, too. It wasn't as good, but points out the 6 degrees of separation in connection with terrorism instead of MAD. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (8 children) I don't know if we're doing spoilers for 40+ year old movies, but spoilerIsn't this really its conclusion after being told to play tic tac toe against itself? Then it learned from that and applied it to its global thermonuclear war simulations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago (4 children) To be honest, I recognized the screenshot and know the summary of the movie but I haven't actually seen it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (3 children) You should! Actually a pretty accurate depiction of hacking. He spends weeks war dialing every phone number in the range in order to hack the computer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) Story goes that Reagan got freaked out after watching the film and asked the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff if it'd be that easy to hack into the US military. After a week of looking into it came the answer: “no, the problem is much worse than that”, and fifteen months after having watched it signed the confidential directive "National Policy on Telecommunications and Automated Information Systems Security", starting the implementation of cybersecurity measures in the country's institutions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago The war room was actually much more high tech than their war room at the time. They realized they needed to invest in computers. Fast. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago It's on my list! Just haven't gotten around to it yet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (2 children) I think you should rewatch it sometime. it plays all the games in it's catalogue, it's not just applying tic-tac-toe to chess. skilled players of tic-tac-toe can force a stalemate, the only stalemate in nuclear war is mutually assured destruction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) It's admittedly been a while since last time I saw it, but I never mentioned chess. The suggestion to play chess in the screenshot is a callback to when the computer tries to suggest playing chess instead of global thermonuclear war earlier in the movie. The computer did not apply tic tac toe learnings to chess, and I never claimed it did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago sorry meant tic-tac-toe to global thermonuclear warfare permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 83 points 8 months ago (12 children) The 1983 movie WarGames. This is the computer's conclusion after simulating every possible outcome of Global Thermonuclear War. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] privatepirate@lemmy.zip 22 points 8 months ago (2 children) Thank you so much I'm going to watch it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago It's a fun classic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] unphazed@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago They did a sequel, too. It wasn't as good, but points out the 6 degrees of separation in connection with terrorism instead of MAD. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (8 children) I don't know if we're doing spoilers for 40+ year old movies, but spoilerIsn't this really its conclusion after being told to play tic tac toe against itself? Then it learned from that and applied it to its global thermonuclear war simulations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago (4 children) To be honest, I recognized the screenshot and know the summary of the movie but I haven't actually seen it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (3 children) You should! Actually a pretty accurate depiction of hacking. He spends weeks war dialing every phone number in the range in order to hack the computer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) Story goes that Reagan got freaked out after watching the film and asked the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff if it'd be that easy to hack into the US military. After a week of looking into it came the answer: “no, the problem is much worse than that”, and fifteen months after having watched it signed the confidential directive "National Policy on Telecommunications and Automated Information Systems Security", starting the implementation of cybersecurity measures in the country's institutions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago The war room was actually much more high tech than their war room at the time. They realized they needed to invest in computers. Fast. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago It's on my list! Just haven't gotten around to it yet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (2 children) I think you should rewatch it sometime. it plays all the games in it's catalogue, it's not just applying tic-tac-toe to chess. skilled players of tic-tac-toe can force a stalemate, the only stalemate in nuclear war is mutually assured destruction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) It's admittedly been a while since last time I saw it, but I never mentioned chess. The suggestion to play chess in the screenshot is a callback to when the computer tries to suggest playing chess instead of global thermonuclear war earlier in the movie. The computer did not apply tic tac toe learnings to chess, and I never claimed it did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago sorry meant tic-tac-toe to global thermonuclear warfare permalink fedilink source parent
[–] privatepirate@lemmy.zip 22 points 8 months ago (2 children) Thank you so much I'm going to watch it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago It's a fun classic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] unphazed@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago They did a sequel, too. It wasn't as good, but points out the 6 degrees of separation in connection with terrorism instead of MAD. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago It's a fun classic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago They did a sequel, too. It wasn't as good, but points out the 6 degrees of separation in connection with terrorism instead of MAD. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (8 children) I don't know if we're doing spoilers for 40+ year old movies, but spoilerIsn't this really its conclusion after being told to play tic tac toe against itself? Then it learned from that and applied it to its global thermonuclear war simulations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago (4 children) To be honest, I recognized the screenshot and know the summary of the movie but I haven't actually seen it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (3 children) You should! Actually a pretty accurate depiction of hacking. He spends weeks war dialing every phone number in the range in order to hack the computer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) Story goes that Reagan got freaked out after watching the film and asked the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff if it'd be that easy to hack into the US military. After a week of looking into it came the answer: “no, the problem is much worse than that”, and fifteen months after having watched it signed the confidential directive "National Policy on Telecommunications and Automated Information Systems Security", starting the implementation of cybersecurity measures in the country's institutions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago The war room was actually much more high tech than their war room at the time. They realized they needed to invest in computers. Fast. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago It's on my list! Just haven't gotten around to it yet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (2 children) I think you should rewatch it sometime. it plays all the games in it's catalogue, it's not just applying tic-tac-toe to chess. skilled players of tic-tac-toe can force a stalemate, the only stalemate in nuclear war is mutually assured destruction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) It's admittedly been a while since last time I saw it, but I never mentioned chess. The suggestion to play chess in the screenshot is a callback to when the computer tries to suggest playing chess instead of global thermonuclear war earlier in the movie. The computer did not apply tic tac toe learnings to chess, and I never claimed it did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago sorry meant tic-tac-toe to global thermonuclear warfare permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago (4 children) To be honest, I recognized the screenshot and know the summary of the movie but I haven't actually seen it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (3 children) You should! Actually a pretty accurate depiction of hacking. He spends weeks war dialing every phone number in the range in order to hack the computer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) Story goes that Reagan got freaked out after watching the film and asked the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff if it'd be that easy to hack into the US military. After a week of looking into it came the answer: “no, the problem is much worse than that”, and fifteen months after having watched it signed the confidential directive "National Policy on Telecommunications and Automated Information Systems Security", starting the implementation of cybersecurity measures in the country's institutions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago The war room was actually much more high tech than their war room at the time. They realized they needed to invest in computers. Fast. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago It's on my list! Just haven't gotten around to it yet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (3 children) You should! Actually a pretty accurate depiction of hacking. He spends weeks war dialing every phone number in the range in order to hack the computer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) Story goes that Reagan got freaked out after watching the film and asked the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff if it'd be that easy to hack into the US military. After a week of looking into it came the answer: “no, the problem is much worse than that”, and fifteen months after having watched it signed the confidential directive "National Policy on Telecommunications and Automated Information Systems Security", starting the implementation of cybersecurity measures in the country's institutions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago The war room was actually much more high tech than their war room at the time. They realized they needed to invest in computers. Fast. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago It's on my list! Just haven't gotten around to it yet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) Story goes that Reagan got freaked out after watching the film and asked the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff if it'd be that easy to hack into the US military. After a week of looking into it came the answer: “no, the problem is much worse than that”, and fifteen months after having watched it signed the confidential directive "National Policy on Telecommunications and Automated Information Systems Security", starting the implementation of cybersecurity measures in the country's institutions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago The war room was actually much more high tech than their war room at the time. They realized they needed to invest in computers. Fast. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago The war room was actually much more high tech than their war room at the time. They realized they needed to invest in computers. Fast. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago It's on my list! Just haven't gotten around to it yet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (2 children) I think you should rewatch it sometime. it plays all the games in it's catalogue, it's not just applying tic-tac-toe to chess. skilled players of tic-tac-toe can force a stalemate, the only stalemate in nuclear war is mutually assured destruction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) It's admittedly been a while since last time I saw it, but I never mentioned chess. The suggestion to play chess in the screenshot is a callback to when the computer tries to suggest playing chess instead of global thermonuclear war earlier in the movie. The computer did not apply tic tac toe learnings to chess, and I never claimed it did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago sorry meant tic-tac-toe to global thermonuclear warfare permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 child) It's admittedly been a while since last time I saw it, but I never mentioned chess. The suggestion to play chess in the screenshot is a callback to when the computer tries to suggest playing chess instead of global thermonuclear war earlier in the movie. The computer did not apply tic tac toe learnings to chess, and I never claimed it did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago sorry meant tic-tac-toe to global thermonuclear warfare permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago sorry meant tic-tac-toe to global thermonuclear warfare permalink fedilink source parent